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MINUTES OF THE BOARD OF APPEALS MEETING OF THE
CITY OF NORTH RICHLAND HILLS, TEXAS
AUGUST 5, 1993
CALL TO ORDER:
The meeting was called to order by Garry
Cope at 7:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Present: John Larriviere
James McCaig
Garry Cope
Michael Augustin
Staff:
Steve Pence
Phyl Baloga
Garry Cope announced the administering
of Oath of Office for one of next years
board member, Michael Augustin. The
election of new officers was postponed
because the full complement of board
members were not present. Garry Cope
acted as temporary chairman for the
evenings business. Next order of
business was the consideration of the
July 1st Board of Appeals Meeting. James
McCaig made a motion that the members
accept the minutes as is. John
Larriviere seconded the motion. The
motion carried
unanimously.
BBA-93-08
Public Hearing to consider a variance
from the Uniform Fire Code requirement
for floor drains and an oil separator
within a garage. Garry Cope opened the
floor for discussion.
John Patton came forward to speak. He
is representing the Woodmont property
Management Company located at 6500 West
Freeway, Suite 900. John Patton
assisted Joseph Lubczyk in filing for
this appeal. John Patton stated that
Joseph Lubczyk came down to city hall
and was given a verbal approval for his
automotive business at 5217 "A" Davis
Boulevard, after which he signed a years
lease. He had made approximately
$20,000 in expenditures and would like
to get a variance from the code since he
would need an additional $10,000 to
comply with the codes. They are in
negotiations to extend the lease which
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currently runs through March of 1994.
John Patton expressed Joseph Lubczyk's
concern that if he makes these
expenditures, he would need a guarantee
that he will be there to enjoy his
investment.
James McCaig asked if a citation was
issued and if this was a direct
violation of code.
Jimmy Beach answered no to a citation
being issued but yes to a violation of
code.
John Patton asked for a variance from
the literal interpretation of the code
until the lease expires in March.
James McCaig brought up the issue that
they want a variance but are they
willing to take care of the problem.
He also asked if Joseph Lubczyk did not
understand the information typed in on
his certificate of occupancy and also
the write-ups that he signed for.
John Patton said he could not speak for
Joseph Ludczyk.
James McCaig asked Jimmy Beach if all
this was explained to Joseph Lubczyk
when he came in for his certificate of
occupancy.
Jimmy Beach, the commercial building
inspector came forward. He stated that
Joseph Ludczyk submitted a floor plan
and filled out the application for a
certificate of occupancy. Jimmy did the
plan review. He inunediately called
Joseph Lubczyk and told him the
application was rejected because it was
automotive repair and floor drains or
oil separators were required. Floor
drains or oil separators are needed so
t.hat the oil does not go into the sewer
system. At that time Joseph Ludczyk
changed his mind and said he was not
going into the automotive repair
business but would be doing electrical
work only. Jimmy Beach told Joseph
Ludcyzk that he would do the plan review
but it would be typed on his C/O that
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there will be NO automotive repair, no
break jobs, no carburator work, no
transmission fluid work, or changing of
oil. Nothing but electrical repair. He
also let Joseph Ludczyk know that the
day he caught him doing anything other
than electrical work the electricity
would be cut off and he would shut the
business down. Joseph Ludczyk was fully
aware of the consequences.
John Larriviere verified the date that
this started was March 11, 1993.
Jimmy Beach said it was prior to that,
at least a couple of days for a plan
review.
Joseph Lubcyzk came forward and
addressed the board. He currently
operates a business at 5217 "A" Davis
Boulevard. Before he applied for a C/O
he went to see a building inspector and
he was told that what he intended was
okay. When he applied for the C/O he
was told that he could do a limited
amount of work but this was after he had
already signed a one year lease and
spent $14,000.
John Larriviere asked if he has been in
this line of work before and if he was
aware of the rules for this type of
business.
Joseph Ludczyk answered he had had a
business before in Irving and storage
barrels were required.
James McCaig asked if Irving had a
different set of codes.
Joseph Lubczyk answered yes, that
storage barrels were required. The oil
was sucked out of the oil barrel and
they would receive a receipt from the
company as to how many gallons of oil
were taken. The city would check the
statement of work done.
James McCaig asked if he had friends in
this type of business.
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Joseph Ludczyk answered he did but not
in the City of North Richland Hills.
They had businesses in Grapevine, Plano,
and Colleyville.
James McCaig asked John Patton if he
represented John Hancock.
John Patton said his company had been
IJranted the specific agency to work with
the property manager.
James McCaig asked him if he had other
buildings in North Richland Hills.
John Patton does not have any other
building in North Richland Hills but
does have some in Arlington and they
require storage barrels to be handled by
a certified company.
John Larriviere asked what was being
done with the oil and transmission
fluid.
Joseph Lubczyk said the antifreeze goes
into a recovery machine and is then
recycled. The transmission fluid is
stored in tanks and a company recycles
it also.
John Larriviere asked "then people are
currently hauling off your oil?"
Joseph Lubczyk said yes. He also stated
that he didn't have a problem with the
city codes. He had already bought a
separator which he is ready to install
but needs to work out the details. He
would like the security of knowing he
will be at this location for the next
four or five years if he is going to
make this type of investment.
Garry Cope said he was confused as to
what Joseph Lubczyk was asking for a
'.Tariance for.
Joseph Lubczyk said he is willing to put
a system in but a one year lease is not
enough. He needs more time to negotiate
his new lease.
Garry Cope then spoke to Jimmy Beach.
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Jimmy Beach told the board that he had
talked with five plumbers about what
would be feasible as far as floor drains
and oil separators. Said he tried
different solutions and felt he had
exhausted all avenues with the problem.
It was now up to Joseph Lubczyk to get
something going.
Garry Cope asked why no citations were
issued.
Jimmy Beach was told by his bosses boss
to give Joseph Lubczyk more time. He
did mention that Joseph Lubczyk runs the
cleanest operation in the city.
Garry Cope asked for Jimmy Beach to give
a chronological order of events.
Jimmy Beach said the day he walked in
and a car was on the rack is the day he
could have had the electricity turned
off and written Joseph a ticket for each
day he stayed open. He went on to say
that the city tries to work with all the
tenants but at some point this abuse of
codes must come to a halt.
James McCaig asked how long it would
take to have this system put in.
Jimmy Beach believes it would take a
master plumber 3 days or less.
John Patton reiterated that they are
currently renegotiating Joseph Lubczyk
lease and they were originally asking
for a variance to the expiration of his
lease in March. However, he believes
they could wrap up negotiations within
the next 30 days. Should he sign a new
lease Joseph Lubczyk will have the
separator unit put in.
At the present time Jays Automotive and
Calloways is grandfathered in since they
were there before 1985. James Jason has
changed the nature of his business to
non mechanical. Juan Norat who applied
as a hobby shop is working on cars. He
is inconsistent with his C/O and if he
doesn't comply he will need to vacate.
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John Patton explained that they did not
feel hostile with the city but thinks
Joseph Lubczyk has the cleanest shop and
thinks it should be no problem granting
him a variance of the code until March
but thinks Joseph Lubczyk would comply
before that.
Michael Augustin asked if he had any
floor drains at all.
John Patton said he had no knowledge.
James McCaig asked if the oil was being
washed out into the street drains.
Joseph Lubczyk said he used absorbants
such as kitty litter and big funnels to
catch the oil. Some oil does drip on
floor.
James McCaig asked if the shop area gets
washed down.
Joseph Lubczyk said it was mopped.
James McCaig "where does the this mop
water go?"
Joseph Lubczyk said it does go into the
city sewer but it is minimal.
The basis for Joseph Lubczyk argument is
that he signed lease papers, made a
heavy cash outlay to get the space open
for business and then found out that he
could not do total automotive work in
this space. He did agree to do
electrical work only but customers were
wanting him to do more extensive work on
their cars so he obliged them. Before
he spends any more money he would like
to be assured that he will be in this
space for at least 4 or 5 more years.
He is currently renegotiating his lease
now. He is enjoying working in the city
of North Richland Hills and wants to
comply with the codes.
Michael Augustin asked "is this in fact
a requirement to have floor drains for
this kind of business?"
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Steve Pence said the city follows the
Uniform Plumbing Code and it says floor
drains are required if the building
official deems necessary. The Fire Code
does however make it clear that floor
drains or oil separators are required.
Michael Augustin asked for a more
detailed explanation of why the oil had
to be drained into a floor system as
opposed to being recycled.
Jimmy Beach explained that the oil
separates from water, goes out barrels
in a concrete box where the water goes
down, up, down and out. The water
separates from the oil. The oil is then
cleaned out by a licensed company. He
will receive a ticket which he then
gives to the health department. Also an
employee from the public works
department moniters the system. This is
also done with restaurants. The city
moniters if it needs to be cleaned more
often. The EPA stipulates all rules and
is coming down on municipalities. Even
if you change oil from your residence,
Laidlaw will not pick it up.
Michael Augustin,"does this apply to
all businesses in the city?"
John Larriviere asked if this applies to
Calloway and other existing automotive
businesses. "will they have to get
dr ains ? "
Steve Pence said it would be possible if
the Texas Water Commission and the EPA
changed the regulations. Steve talked
with Mr. Culpepper and they are
currently renegotiating these leases.
They talked of a community type drain
system. Those who wanted to tie in
would and those who don't would be
removed from the property.
John Larriviere mentioned that if they'
were to tie in on a community line then
it would surely cut the cost.
Steve Pence agreed that this would cut
the cost.
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·John Larriviere wanted to know if the
landlord agreed to do this.
Steve Pence said no but it was
discussed.
Michael Augustin proposed that Joseph
Lubszyk be offered a reasonable amount
of time to have the floor drains put in
and then electricity would be cut off if
he did not do so.
John Larriviere asked "what would happen
the next time an automotive type
business decides to move into North
Richland Hills?"
Steve Pence told him that anyone that
applies for any type of automotive
business will not be allowed in the
city unless they have had floor drains
installed.
Garry Cope said he understood that there
are other tenants that don't even have a
certificate of occupancy.
Steve Pence told of one business that
doesn't have a certificiate of
occupancy, one started off as a hobby
shop and turned into an automotive
repair business. He was told to stop
all work.
John Larriviere reinforced that the city
assumed Joseph Lubczyk was going to do
electrical work only and that is why the
city let him open up but it turned into
full fledged automotive work.
Steve Pence mentioned that now that the
city is enforcing floor drains, this will
be a hardship for businesses that are
truly doing only electrical or
windshields but time and time again
these businesses have started off simple
but expanded. The City Manager
has instructed our department that this
will not happen again. They must meet
all requirements for repair garages or
they will not move in.
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John Patton believes 45 days for
aegotiating and 30 days to install would
be more than fair.
Joseph Lubczyk was interested in the
letteI:' Mr. Culpepper sent wanting to
know about a central grease trap that
everyone could tie onto.
Steve Pence told Joseph Lubczyk that
this matter was between himself and his
landlord.
John Larriviere reinforced the fact that
Joseph Lubczyk came into the city not
fully knowing what needed to be done and
when he found out he should have
complied with the code.
Joseph Lubczyk agreed and said he was
ready to comply and work with Jimmy
Beach.
John Larriviere said the way to enforce
this code would be to cut the
electricity if he did not comply.
Joseph Lubczyk said he has bought the
grease trap, is ready to install but has
received no further information from the
landlord.
Garry Cope said the lease company and
the owners are not responsible for
violating the code. The ultimate
responsibility is Mr. Lubczyk's.
Joseph Lubczyk said he understood and
will install the grease trap but he
needs permission from landlord to cut
the concrete.
John Larriviere stated that the landlord
attracts the automotive business and
should be made aware of what all is
involved.
John Patton said he would be getting
with the landlord about this matter.
John Larriviere told Mr. Lubczyk that
what they were asking for was not a
variance. This board cannot go against
the ordinances. We don't make
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cne policies. This would not be
feasible to let you do this.
Michael Augustin said what they need is
time to correct this problem.
Michael Augustin made a motion that the
Board of Appeals deny the request for a
variance but give Joseph Lubczyk a grace
period of 75 days from today's date
{August 5)to comply with the city's
code. The Board would grant an
extension to October 15, 1993.
James McCaig seconded the motion.
The motion carried unanimously.
Garry Cope reiterated that Joseph
Lubczyk has 75 days to comply or the
electricity will be cut and the city
will take action immediately.
Garry Cope called the meeting adjourned.
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