HomeMy WebLinkAboutPZ 1992-06-11 Minutes
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION OF THE
CITY OF NORTH RICHLAND HillS, TEXAS
JUNE 11, 1992
CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order by Secretary Don Bowen at
7:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT:
Secretary
Members
Don Bowen
Don Collins
Ron Lueck
Pat Marin
Paul Miller
Wayne Moody
Barry LeBaron
Clayton Husband
James Brock
David Barfield
Steve Pence
Dir Community Dev
P&Z Coordinator
ABSENT:
Building Official
CONSIDERATION OF THE MINUTES
OF MAY 28. 1992
Mr. Wayne Moody made the motion to approve the minutes
as written. The motion was seconded by Ms. Pat Marin, and
the motion carried 5-0, with Mr. Lueck abstaining due to
absence at the previous meeting.
Secretary Don Bowen chaired the meeting due to the absence
of Chairman James Brock and Vice-Chairman David Barfield.
1. PS 92-11
Request of Calvin Sims for Preliminary Plat of Emerald Lakes
Addition. This property is located south of Emerald Hills Way
and east of Norich Park.
Mr. Warren Hagan, 500 Grapevine Highway, Hurst, came
forward to speak. Mr. Hagan addressed the fence issue
stating he felt he was meeting the concerns of the
Commission about the fence along the park with the four foot
wrought iron fence on the brick wall, making the total fence
height 5Y2 to 6 feet above the ground.
Mr. Lueck stated that the Commission felt the fence should
be at least six feet in total height.
Mr. Hagan stated that a six foot fence would be no problem.
Mr. Collins stated he would like to see a minimum height of
six feet. He stated the City's Risk Management department
should look at the fence since it does abut a city park.
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Mr. Hagan stated he understands that the constructions plans
will have to be reviewed by the city Staff and will have to
meet all their requirements.
Mr. Collins stated that this will just flat the issue to a specific
department so they can look at the insurance risk. He stated
his reservations about the slat width of the fence.
Mr. Hagan stated the slats are at six inch centers.
Mr. Collins stated he understands that on the other side of
the fence, it is a straight drop to the water.
Mr. Hagan stated that is correct.
Mr. Miller stated that decorative fences like this one are
usually narrower at the bottom. He stated that a taller fence
would need to be stronger.
Mr. Collins stated that the concerns can be settled if Mr.
Hagan would agree to a minimum six-foot fence height
overall, including wall and fence, and let the risk management
department look at it.
Mr. Hagan stated he is agreeable to that.
Mr. Bowen stated that the Commission likes this plan, but it is
not in compliance with the current thoroughfare plan. He
stated the intention tonight is to table the plat until the
Council approves the change. Mr. Bowen stated he is
uncomfortable in approval subject to future Council action.
Mr. Collins made the motion to table PS 92-11 until the June
25th meeting. Mr. Lueck seconded the motion, and the
motion carried 6-0.
2. PS 92-12
Request of Alpine Development for Final Plat of Spring Oaks
Addition. This property is located north ot Cannon Drive and
west of Amundson Road.
Terry Mitchell, with Carter & Burgess Engineers, came forward
to speak. He stated he had received and reviewed the staff
and engineering comments and has agreed to take care of
them as requested. He stated he wished to bring up some
comments for explanation. Mr. Mitchell addressed the
comment on visibility requirements stating he has agreed to
trim Lots 12 and 13 on Pebblecreek at Amundson to allow
visibility to be maintained. He stated Amundson would have
a slightly variable right-at-way tor visibility reasons. He
stated that Cannon and Amundson do not intersect at exactly
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90°, but they are within generally accepted tolerable angles.
Mr. Mitchell addressed the masonry screening wall
requirement. He stated that the project was conceived in the
first part of this year, and there was no wall requirement for
C4U streets at that time. He stated it was the intention for
each homeowner to build and maintain their own fence. He
stated the Commission had, at that time, required them to
upgrade the fence to a 20-25 year fence, a fence similar to a
steel-post/wood fence. Mr. Mitchell stated that they had
submitted a final plat and plans prior to the ordinance being
approved by the Council. He stated they were only aware of
the ordinance several days in advance, and feels that it
places an unreasonable hardship on the development. He
stated they budgeted for a fence along Cannon and
Amundson based on the Commission and Council hearings,
and feel that the additional requirement of masonry puts a
substantial hardship on the client.
Mr. Collins stated the reason for the masonry fences along
major streets is that wood fences tend to be of differing
heights and ages, thereby not being very attractive. He
stated the Council has already passed this ordinance, and
there is not much else the Commission can do except make a
recommendation. He stated he understands there are some
fiberglass fence products that could be used. He stated the
least they can do is make a recommendation to the Council
that they waive the requirement in this case, but that Mr.
Mitchell come to the Council meeting with a proposed fence
design or fence product that would look good to them.
Mr. Lueck stated that the ordinance left the Commission with
the requirement for a masonry fence along C4U streets, and
the Council changed it. He stated it was then reconsidered
by the Council and evolved into the present ordinance.
Mr. Mitchell stated he was told that about a year ago the
Commission made a recommendation to the Council for a
fence along C4U streets, but that the Council thought is was
a hardship and changed it. He stated the Commission
brought it back up and it was approved, but that they were
unaware of it. He stated they did have a representative at the
Council meeting, but it was not a Public Hearing, so they had
no chance to voice their opinion.
Mr. Moody stated that experience has shown that wood
fences tend to look unattractive. He stated he is not
prepared to ask for a waiver, but does agree that a
compromise is in order.
Mr. Mitchell stated that his client feels they have made some
concessions, and that the requirement was not there when
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STAFF REPORT
CITIZEN COMMENTS
ADJOURNMENT
Member, Planning and Zonin Commission
discussed at the Commission and Council meetings. He
stated they do intend to put up a higher grade fence.
Mr. Lueck stated the Council passed the ordinance and it had
to go into effect sometime. He stated the Council knows
these things are coming up, and are well informed about what
date they want these things to go into effect.
Mr. Bowen stated he is uncomfortable changing midstream,
but Mr. Mitchell would do well to look at alternatives and be
prepared for the Council meeting.
Mr. Collins asked if a wall is built on Amundson and Cannon,
will there be enough room for sight distance.
Mr. LeBaron stated that at the next Commission meeting
there will be a proposed ordinance on visibility triangles, and
that this intersection probably does not meet those
regulations. He stated that the Public Works Director felt that
some type of traffic control device might be needed since two
collector streets are involved.
Mr. Mitchell stated he will look at all intersections for sight
problems.
Mr. Collins made the motion to approve PS 92-12 subject to
staff and engineering comments, that the visibility problem at
Cannon and Amundson be looked at, and that the Council
consider waiving the masonry fence requirement in lieu of an
alternative type of fence construction. Mr. Moody seconded,
and the motion carried 6-0.
Mr. LeBaron stated he appreciated the Commissions patience
is looking at the revisions to the Zoning Ordinance. He asked
the Commissioners to mark their calendar for June 29 at 6:00
p.m. for a workshop and refresher course for Planning and
Zoning Commissioners offered by the Midwest Section of the
APA.
None.
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned.
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I Secretary Don Bowen