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MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION OF THE
CITY OF NORTH RICHLAND HILLS, TEXAS
SEPTEMBER 26, 1991 - 7:30 P. M.
CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order by
Chairman James Brock at 7:32 P.M.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT:
Chairman
Vice Chairman
Secretary
Members
Alt. Member
Dir. Community Dev.
Building Official
P & Z Coordinator
James Brock
David Barfield
Don Bowen
Ron Lueck
Pat Marin
Wayne Moody
Barry LeBaron
Steve Pence
Wanda Calvert
ABSENT:
Don Collins
Paul Miller
CONSIDERATION OF THE MINUTES
OF SEPTEMBER 12, 1991
Mr. Lueck made the motion to approve
the minutes as written. This motion
was seconded by Ms. Marin and the
motion carried 5-0 with Mr. Moody
abstaining since he was not present at
the meeting.
1 .
PS 90-11
Request of Richmond Bay Development
Company for Preliminary Plat of Lots
58 & 59, Block 1, Meadow Lakes
Addition. This property is located on
the north side of Meadow Lakes Drive
at the intersection of Skylark Circle
and next to the TU Electric Easement.
Mr. Bob Frank came forward to
represent Richmond Bay. He said he
was there to answer any questions they
might have, but said they had complied
with all the engineer's comments.
PS 90-11
APPROVED
Ms. Marin made the motion to approve
PS 90-11 subject to the engineer's
comments. This motion was seconded by
Mr. Barfield and the motion carried
6-0.
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2.
PZ 91-09
Consideration of an amendment to
Zoning Ordinance #1080 regarding
carnivals and other special events.
Chairman Brock stated that P & Z has
reviewed this; requested the City
Staff draw up an ordinance; sent that
ordinance to the City Council and the
City Council has sent it back to P & Z
for additional study and review.
Chairman Brock read the proposed
amendment: "That Section 24.4
TEMPORARY USES AND BUILDINGS be hereby
amended to insert the following
paragraph: (b) Carnivals, circuses
and special fund raising events
sponsored by a public entity, civic or
non-profit organization located within
the City may be held for a period not
exceeding seven consecutive days on an
open site containing at least six
acres in any non-residential zoning
district, provided that adequate
parking and sanitary facilities are
made available to the satisfaction of
the Building Official. No carnival or
special event shall begin operation
before 8:00 A.M. and operation shall
cease before 11:00 P.M. on all nights
except on Saturdays when the event
shall cease operation at mid-night.
There shall be at least 180 days
between subsequent events at the same
location or by the same sponsor. No
reduction in any minimum zoning
requirement shall be affected by such
activity and the Building Official
shall establish the terms and
conditions for the temporary use at
the time of approval."
Mr. Barfield said he feels they need
to look at some of the items in the
ordinance. He said in the first
sentence, "non-residential" should be
removed because some schools are in
residential zoning. Mr. Barfield said
to delete "There shall be at least 180
days between subsequent events at the
same location or by the same sponsor.
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No reduction in any mlnlmum zoning
requirement shall be affected by such
activity and". He said to start a new
sentence with "The Building Official
shall establish the terms and
conditions for the temporary use at
the time of approval." Mr. Barfield
said we need to make some provision
for special exceptions to this
ordinance. He said he would like to
send it back to the City Staff to
re-write this with these changes and
an Appeal Process and bring it back to
us at the next P & Z meeting.
Mr. Lueck said the Appeal Process could
be worded like this: "In the event a
sponsor is dissatisfied with the
Building Official's decision, the said
sponsor may appeal the requested use
to the Planning and Zoning
Commission".
Mr. LeBaron asked if the 11:00 o'clock
closing time was okay.
Several of the Commission members said
they had no problem with the time.
Mr. Lueck asked if they should in the
first sentence add "bonified" public
entity. He said it might need to be
checked for legality.
Mr. Barfield asked, under "special
fund raising events", should they add
"rummage sales".
Chairman Brock stated that rummage
sales would fall under that. He said
there are so many things that could be
listed under special fund raising
events. He said we could not list
them all.
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PZ 91-09
TABLED
Mr. Barfield made the motion to send
PZ 91-09 back to the City Staff with
our suggestions and re-write it and
bring back and present it at the next
scheduled P & Z meeting. This motion
was seconded by Mr. Lueck and the
motion carried 6-0.
3.
PS 90-30
Consideration of an amendment to
Subdivision Ordinance #1579 requiring
masonry screening walls along major
thoroughfares.
Chairman Brock said there have been
several meetings on this item. He
asked Mr. LeBaron to explain the
history of this item.
Mr. LeBaron said this issue started
about a year ago. He said the
Commission asked City Staff to look
into what other cities were doing
regarding masonry screening walls.
Mr. LeBaron said he found that some
cities were requiring them, some did
not require them, and some had
construction standards for developers
if they put in screening walls. Mr.
LeBaron said he had a slide show for
the Commission where we looked at
different types of construction of
these fences. He said he took
Planning and Zoning's suggestions and
prepared this ordinance. He said this
ordinance was then submitted to the
City Council for their review and on
July 22nd they asked questions
regarding the way you were going to
apply the requirement for masonry
screening walls. Mr. LeBaron said the
ordinance stated that when a
subdivision is developed adjacent to a
thoroughfare as shown on the City's
Master Thoroughfare Plan, the
development would be required to
construct a masonry screening wall
according to these standards. He said
there was concern from the City
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Council that it was too liberal, to be
more conservative in that approach, so
they sent it back to P & Z for further
study.
Chairman Brock said there is concern
that this amendment could create more
problems than it would be eliminating
and that was not P & Z's intention to
do that. He said economics sometimes
takes care of problems like this. He
said we had concerns about fences that
were built, that they would meet
certain requirements and standards so
they would not fall down after a few
years.
Mr. Barfield said he felt that
requiring these on a C2U might be a
little restrictive. He suggested
changing it to require them on C4U or
greater. Also in the design criteria,
he suggested eliminating the column
spacing. He said in the last
paragraph it talks about it being
designed by a professional engineer
and the engineer should be able to
tell if the columns need to be on 10
feet or 25 feet or what. Mr. Barfield
said the requirement for a 4 inch
opening along the bottom of the fence
to allow storm water to pass could be
arbitrary, if a fence is at the top of
a grade and you have water shed both
directions, you would not need water
passing under the fence. He said he
thinks they should put more burden on
the structural engineer.
Mr. Lueck said he also feels the 4
inch requirement should be left up to
the engineer.
Chairman Brock said paragraph 7 of the
ordinance needs to be changed from a
C2U to C4U or greater, but how should
we deal with the sentence that deals
with a distance of 400 feet.
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Mr. Barfield said it should state if
it is a distance of more than 400
feet.
Mr. LeBaron said if we are going to
change the requirement to C4U, we
might want to change that criteria
also. He said when P & Z first
started talking about this, you said
that any subdivision or replat that
would be adjacent to a C2U or greater
would have to put a masonry screening
wall along the C2U or greater. He
said then they felt it might become a
hardship for a small subdivision with
maybe 2 lots that adjoins a
thoroughfare. Mr. LeBaron said they
decided that if you have one street
intersection or if you extend 400 feet
or more, it would be required and you
would be excluding the small
subdivisions.
Chairman Brock said he felt if they
change it to a C4U, you would need the
masonry screening fence.
Mr. Barfield said if it backs up to a
C4U, but the entrance is off a C2U and
if there is no intersection, they
would not have to put up a masonry
fence. He said you would probably
need one or the other.
Mr. LeBaron said if you are on a 4
lane or larger, whether the
subdivision is one lot or 50 lots, you
want it masonry.
Chairman Brock said it is our intent
that if a subdivision backs up to a
C4U, we want it masonry if it is 100
lots or if it is 4 lots or 2 lots.
Mr. Barfield said if a man owns
property on a C4U and he wishes to
subdivide it into one or 2 lots, he
doesn't feel he should have to put up
a masonry fence, but if he owns
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acreage like Peachtree Estates where
they actually have only 2 lots on the
thoroughfare, but they have a street
going back.
Mr. Bowen asked if Section 107 in the
Design Manual, could these be changed
without a change in the ordinance.
Mr. LeBaron said they could. He said
those are technical engineering
requirements.
Mr. Barfield made the motion to send
this back to City Staff to change the
wording from C2U to C4U or larger;
anything that has to do with column
spacing and restricting the design
should be deleted and put it more on
the back of the structural engineer.
Chairman Brock said he needs a
clarification on Mr. Barfield's
motion. He asked if we could approve
it with these changes.
Mr. Barfield said he would change his
motion to approve it on C4U streets or
larger. This motion was seconded by
Mr. Moody.
Mr. Lueck asked what the changes would
be.
Mr. LeBaron said paragraph 7 would
read as follows: "Every newly platted
subdivision or re-subdivision of
existing residential lots adjacent to
a C4U thoroughfare or larger as shown
on the prevailing Master Thoroughfare
Plan shall comply with a screening
wall requirement as provided in this
section".
Mr. Lueck asked that Mr. LeBaron read
Paragraph 7 again.
Mr. LeBaron read it again.
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Mr. Barfield said if a person comes in
with 2 or 3 acres on a C4U or greater
and he wants to subdivide his lot into
2 lots, we need to make an exception
to those people. He said it would not
be fair for him to have to put up a
masonry screening fence.
Mr. LeBaron said the way you are
designing this ordinance, if the
subdivision is adjacent to a C4U
whether it be one lot, 2 lots or more,
that property line would have to have
a screening wall.
Mr. Barfield said that is what he is
trying to exempt. He said we need
different verbiage on that. He said it
would be like the man on Douglas Lane
who came in to replat his property
into 2 lots.
Mr. Bowen asked if it would be
possible for him to escrow funds for
the fence. He said he did not think
they would want to put up a masonry
fence on one lot, but the intent is
you would eventually want a masonry
screening fence there.
Mr. LeBaron said anytime you have a
property that is different from the
norm, as your roll as Planning and
Zoning Commission you can evalua.te
that and make a recommendation to the
City Council based on those facts.
Chairman Brock said then we could
leave the ordinance the way it is
written and take the one lot
subdivision into consideration.
Mr. LeBaron said if you want some
guidelines for some exceptions, you can
put something in there.
Mr. Barfield said they could put that
a replat of a one lot subdivision
facing a collector street is exempt.
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Mr. LeBaron said the Commission has
dealt with waivers and hardship cases
in the past.
Ms. Marin asked Mr. Barfield if he
plans to amend his motion.
Mr. Barfield said he would make his
motion over.
PS 90-30
APPROVED WITH CHANGES
Mr. Barfield recommended approval of
PS 90-30, change the verbiage on
paragraph 7 to what Mr. LeBaron read
and add the section that a replat of
an existing one lot subdivision on a
collector street is exempt.
Mr. Moody asked where do you draw the
line, one lot or 2 lots.
Mr. Barfield said if you have a street
intersection in a subdivision. He
said the intent is not to require this
on every little homeowner that comes
in and replats his lot.
Mr. Moody seconded the motion and the
motion carried 6-0.
4.
PS 91-19
Consideration of an ordinance for
Detention/Retention/Decorative Ponds.
Chairman Brock said this is an
ordinance that the City Council sent
to us for review and consideration.
He said we looked at it at our last
meeting and we spent some time at our
workshop on it. He said it is the
intention of this Commission to
promote Detention/Retention/Decorative
Ponds in the City; they could be very
attractive and a great asset to the
City, but there are some concerns of
the members.
Ms. Marin said we all feel it
necessary and it could work to the
betterment of the City, but we need to
give it more study before we make any
decisions.
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PS 91-19
TABLED
Ms. Marin made the motion to table
PS 91-19 for the time being. This
motion was seconded by Mr. Bowen and
the motion carried 6-0.
5.
STAFF REPORT
Mr. LeBaron requested the Commission
mark up their proposed ordinance on
Detention/Retention/Decorative Ponds,
put where your concerns are and give
them back to him.
Mr. LeBaron said he wanted to give
them an idea where they are on the
Zoning Ordinance update. He said
Planning and Zoning had a joint
workshop with the City Council the
later part of March where we talked
with Dan Boutwell who gave us an
analysis of the Zoning Ordinance. He
said at that time, we had reviewed all
the amendments that had taken place
since 1984. Mr. LeBaron said Mr.
Boutwell gave a critique of changes in
the formats of zoning ordinances as a
result of court cases and he
recommended some changes in our
structure. For example, our zoning
ordinance contains a provision for a
Flood Plain District, but now we have
adopted a Flood Plain Ordinance which
superseeds what is contained in the
zoning ordinance, and also it
conflicts with the zoning ordinance.
Mr. LeBaron said Mr. Boutwell also
said that our list of uses in the
ordinance are somewhat vague in areas
and there have been some new uses that
exist that are not contained in our
zoning ordinance. He said some of the
language is confusing. Mr LeBaron
said Mr. Boutwell will have a new
proposed list of zoning uses for us to
look at and he would like to get with
P & Z at our next meeting and go over
it with us. Mr. LeBaron said there
are several ways of updating the
zoning ordinance; we could have
several changes or one big change. He
said we hope to have a zoning update
for P & Z to look at the last of next
month.
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6.
CITIZEN COMMENTS
ADJOURNMENT
Don Bowen, Secretary
Planning & Zoning Commission
Regarding the Master Plan, Mr. LeBaron
said they are about half way through
the process of completing the Master
Plan update. He said we should have,
by the end of October, a Master Plan
which will show and reflect the future
of North Richland Hills. He suggested
we invite the City Council to join
them to look over the proposed Master
Plan. He said if it is the Master
Plan that best reflects the future of
NRH, then by the middle of November we
should be able to advertise and have a
community public hearing on our
Comprehensive Master Plan.
Mr. LeBaron said several months ago we
had an area in Diamond Loch zoned for
duplex but was built as single family.
He said we have another area in NRH
which has the same problem. He said
he will get that information to P & Z
at the next meeting to see what you
want to do about it.
None.
The meeting adjourned at 8:15 P.M.