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MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION OF THE
CITY OF NORTH RICHLAND HILLS, TEXAS
AUGUST 23, 1990 - 7:30 P. M.
CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order by
Chairman Mark Wood at 7:35 P.M.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT:
Chairman
Vice Chairman
Secretary
Members
Alt. Member
Dir. Community Dev.
Asst. Dir. P.W.
P & Z Coordinator
Mark Wood
James Brock
David Barfield
Don Bowen
Ron Lueck
George Angle
Barry LeBaron
John Johnston
Wanda Calvert
ABSENT:
Don Collins
Pat Marin
CONSIDERATION OF THE MINUTES
OF AUGUST 9, 1990
Mr. Brock made the motion to approve
the minutes as written. This motion
was seconded by Mr. Lueck and the
motion carried 6-0.
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PS 90-17
TABLED-B/9/90
Public Hearing for request of B.H. &
L. Joint Venture for preliminary plat
of Richland Oaks North Addition. This
is a replat of a portion of Cherokee
Estates. This property is located
south of North Tarrant Parkway, west
of Davis Boulevard.
Chairman Wood stated this request was
tabled during the Public Hearing at
the August 9th meeting to allow the
engineer to change the layout.
Chairman Wood said we would continue
the Public Hearing and call for anyone
wishing to speak in favor of this
request to please come forward.
Owen D. Long, engineer, came forward.
He said he believed he had done what
the Commission had asked him to do on
the plat.
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Chairman Wood stated that the
Commission appreciates them
reconsidering the layout. He said he
thinks they have solved the problem by
eliminating the lots facing on the
major thoroughfare, University Drive.
Mr. Long said some of the engineer's
comments would not apply since they
made the change in the layout. He
said he talked with Kevin Miller and
he saw no major problems with the
revised layout. Mr. Long said that
Kevin had some problem with leaving
pieces of lots in the old Cherokee
Estates so they have agreed to bring
in a plat on the pieces of lots south
of this plat.
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Mr. Barfield said at the work session
Mr. Long was concerned that by turning
Colgate Court, he might want to run
some drainage down the drives of two
or three lots.
Mr. Long said he did not think he
would have to do that, but he might
have to cut University Drive a little
deeper.
Chairman Wood called for anyone
wishing to speak in opposition to this
request to please come forward.
There being no one wishing to speak,
the Chairman closed the Public
Hearing.
PS 90-17
APPROVED
Mr. Angle made the motion to approve
PS 90-17. This motion was seconded by
Mr. Brock and the motion carried 6-0.
Chairman Wood said the next two
requests would be heard together, but
voted on separately.
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PS 90-20
Request of Gary B. Starnes and James
M. Starnes for preliminary plat of
Orange Valley Addition. This property
is located at the northeast corner of
Starnes Road and Douglas Lane.
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PS 90-21
Request of Gary B. Starnes and James
M. Starnes for final plat of Orange
Valley Addition. This property is
located at the northeast corner of
Starnes Road and Douglas Lane.
Chairman Wood stated there was
extensive discussion in the
pre-session regarding these requests.
Dick Perkins, engineer for the
property, came forward.
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Chairman Wood stated that the main
problem was that all the owner's
property is not included in the
preliminary plat, and we have the
preliminary and final on the agenda
tonight. He said the drainage of the
other 6 acres needs to be addressed.
Chairman Wood asked Mr. Johnson, the
City Engineer, why he asked for a 20
foot off-site easement.
Mr. Johnston stated he asked for the
20 foot easement because he had no
information to the east.
Chairman Wood said the engineer has
agreed to provide that information at
a later date which would take care of
it.
Chairman Wood asked Mr. Johnston about
the letter he sent to the owners.
Mr. Johnston said he wanted the owners
to be fully aware of the development
requirements that would be required to
develop the remaining 6 acres.
Chairman Wood stated that if the
drainage is not taken care of now, in
later years, the city will have to fix
it.
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Mr. Barfield said if Mr. Starnes plans
to develop is 10 years from now, does
this letter have enough teeth in it.
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Mr. Johnston said you cannot force an
owner to develop his property, but the
staff just wanted him to be aware of
the requirements.
Chairman Wood said it will not be
feasible to develop the 6 acres.
Mr. Barfield said if the property
owner to the north wanted to develop,
he would need an easement down stream.
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Mr. Perkins said if he would
preliminary plat 2 acres in one lot
and 6 acres in one lot and provide a
20 foot easement, the Commission would
approve, but they would not have
accomplished anything. He said he
feels the Commission is setting a
precedence requiring the developer get
an easement. Mr. Perkins said they do
not require everyone to plat all the
property they own.
Chairman Wood said there are not many
times you have a piece of land that is
shown on the Master Drainage Plan.
Mr. Perkins asked how many other times
you have some individual present a
preliminary and final and only plat a
section of their property.
Chairman Wood said this property is
all owned by the same person. He said
Mr. Hamm does not own the property
now.
Chairman Wood said he knows the person
Mr. Perkins is speaking of. He said
that person owns approximately 700
acres and has sold off 2 pieces, none
of which has a drainage problem.
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Mr. Perkins said if Mr. Starnes agreed
to granting an easement, then later
when he needed to develop the property
and needed to move the easement, he
has no assurance they could get the
city to allow them to move it.
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Mr. Lueck said if Mr. Starnes would
just sign the letter.
Mr. Perkins said the Commission is
just trying to accommodate the people
to the north.
Chairman Wood stated we had a piece of
land where we needed an easement for
drainage. He said it was L.C. Tubb.
Chairman Wood said he did not want to
give an easement, but he finally did.
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Alan Hamm came forward. He said he is
the proposed owner of the 10 acre
tract being heard tonight. He said if
you take away the development by
requesting him to give an easement,
you will damage him terribly. Mr.
Hamm said he had had to get the right
to dump water on property. He said he
has had to pay for it. Mr. Hamm said
he things Mr. Wood is wrong. Mr. Hamm
said he thinks the 6 acres will
develop.
Mr. Lueck said we still need to know
the effect the drainage will have on
this property.
Mr. Hamm said he has been a good
developer. He said he tries to do a
good job and he requests the
Commission consider the 10 acres,
only.
Mr. Lueck asked if the Starnes people
will sign this letter Mr. Johnston
sent.
Mr. Johnston said they will sign, but
wanted to talk to their attorney, they
might want to change the wording.
Chairman Wood stated they agreed to
most of the engineer's comments.
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Mr. Perkins said he will try to have
the corrections made tomorrow and have
the drainage next week.
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Chairman Wood asked about the
assessments due on this property.
Mr. Perkins read the letter from Mr.
Hamm to Gregg Dickens stating that he
will pay the assessments prior to the
filing of the final plat. He said the
signature is notorized and Mr. Dickens
agreed to it.
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Mr. Angle said he appreciated Mr.
Hamm's position in wanting to get his
property developed. He said he does
not totally concur with Mr. Barfield's
contention regarding requiring the
easement at this time, but do feel the
need for the staff to study the
drainage. Mr. Angle said he thinks
that is important. He said he would
feel a little constrained to vote on
the final plat. Mr. Angle said as a
school teacher, he feels you need to
be consistent. They said sometimes
they come in and get a preliminary and
final plat approved the same evening.
Mr. Angle said if he voted for that in
the past, he does not think he did; he
said he does not think that is
logical. Mr. Angle said he feels the
staff needs to have the preliminary
plat on all the property and have time
to study it and make some
recommendations, and he hopes that
during that time, a solution can be
found so as not to infringe on the
economic rights of Mr. Starnes.
Mr. Angle moved to approve PS 90-20
pending the preliminary plat of all
the property.
Chairman Wood said that is kind of
broad. He asked Mr. Angle if he was
saying to approve the preliminary plat
subject to bringing back the whole
piece platted at time of the final.
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Mr. Angle said his motion is to
approve the preliminary plat subject
to having the entire property
preliminary platted.
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Chairman Wood said the Commission
cannot approve a preliminary plat if
we do not have the information on it.
Mr. Angle said that is where they
differ. He said he would be willing
to approve the preliminary plat, but
would not be willing to approve the
final plat.
Chairman Wood said we need a
preliminary plat on all the property
and then come back with a final on
just the 10 acres.
Mr. Angle said that is correct.
Chairman Wood asked Mr. LeBaron if we
needed to be presented a preliminary
plat on the entire property before we
can approve it; can we approve
something we haven't received.
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Mr. LeBaron said he would be reluctant
to do that.
Mr. Brock asked if they could approve
the preliminary plat subject to
getting the calculations.
Chairman Wood said they could if they
were not adding property to it.
Mr. Barfield said he believes he can
make a motion that would work.
Mr. Angle withdrew his motion.
PS 90-20
APPROVED
Mr. Barfield made the motion to
approve PS 90-20 subject to the
engineer's comments, subject to an
appropriate drainage study for the
surrounding property being done and
whatever requirements that the
drainage study shows that they be
implemented in the final plat.
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This motion was seconded by Mr. Angle
and the motion carried 6-0.
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PS 90-21
TABLED
ADJOURNMENT
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Mr. Perkins asked since approving
this, if he gets the drainage done,
will the Commission approve the final
plat at the next meeting.
Chairman Wood said based on what we
know tonight, we would.
Mr. Lueck said the Commission would
review it and vote on it.
Mr. Barfield made the motion to table
PS 90-21. This motion was seconded by
Mr. Brock and the motion carried 6-0.
The meeting adjourned at B:20 P.M.
Secretary Planning & Zoning Commission
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