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MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION OF THE
CITY OF NORTH RICHLAND HILLS, TEXAS
JANUARY 26, 1989 - 7:30 P. M.
CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order by the
Chairman, John Schwinger, at 7:30 P.M.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT:
Chairman
Vice Chairman
Secretary
Members
Alt. Member
Dir. Economic Dev.
Dir. Planning/Dev.
P & Z Coordinator
John Schwinger
Mark Wood
David Barfield
Don Bowen
Ron Lueck
James Brock
David Greene
Pat Marin
C.A. Sanford
George Tucker
Wanda Calvert
Since all members are present,
Alternate Pat Marin will not vote.
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CONSIDERATION OF THE MINUTES
OF JANUARY 12, 1989
Mr. Bowen made the motion to approve
the minutes as written. This motion
was seconded by Mr. Barfield and the
motion carried 6-0 with Mr. Lueck
abstaining since he was not present at
the meeting.
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PZ 89-1
Public Hearing for discussion of
proposed revisions to the Zoning
Ordinance ¡I1080.
Chairman Schwinger read the proposed
revisions:
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1. R-1 Single Family District
Increase side yard requirements from
seven feet each side to 10 feet on one
side and six feet on the other side.
Only side or rear entry garage will be
allowed.
Reduce minimum lot size from 13,000
square feet to 12,000 square feet.
Minimum house size to remain at 1,800
square feet.
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2. R-2 Single Family District
Increase side yard requirements from
six feet each side to ten feet one
side and six feet on the other side.
Only side or rear entry garages will
be allowed.
Minimum house size to remain at 1,600
square feet.
3. R-3 Single Family District
Be allowed only as a buffer zone.
4. R-5-D Duplex District
Delete from Ordinance.
R-4-SD District to remain and fill gap
with minimum dwelling unit size
increased from 1,000 square feet to
1,200 square feet.
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5. R-6-T Townhouse and Garden Home
District
Garden home use be removed from the
District.
Minimum lot width be increased from
twenty feet to thirty feet.
Minimum dwelling unit size be
increased from 1,000 square feet to
1,200 square feet.
6. R-8 Zero Lot Line District
Allowed only as a buffer zone.
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7. Special Development Controls
Add Section - Sidewalks required in
all districts with exception of AG on
all public streets.
Add Section - Side or rear entrance
garages required in R-1 and R-2 Single
Family Districts.
Add Section to allow model homes with
restrictions.
Apply restrictions on rodeo type
activities on lots or tracts
containing less than five acres.
Add wording to allow swimming pools to
be constructed adjacent to an easement
upon approval by Building Official.
Add wording to allow non-sight barring
fences in front yards. Fences to be
wrought iron not over four feet in
height.
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Change wording - Accessory building
not to exceed ten foot eave height.
Chairman Schwinger stated there were
no dramatic changes, just ascetics.
Chairman Schwinger opened the Public
Hearing and called for those wishing
to speak to please come forward.
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Charles Parish, 715 Barbara Lane,
Keller, came forward. He stated he is
a Home Builder with offices located at
5505 Davis Boulevard. Mr. Parish said
he is confused as to why these
changes. He said some cities are real
strict, some are lax, but North
Richland Hills is the middle of the
road on restrictions. Mr. Parish said
he felt the present restrictions are
sufficient. He asked if the side yard
change was requested by the fire
department or some other enity.
David Barfield said it was to gain
access to the back yard. He said we
have continual problems trying to keep
cars off the street. He said he did
not feel it would make a major problem
for builders.
Mr. Parish said this would not stop
the problem. He said you did not say
you can't have trees or other
obstruction in this area.
Mr. Parish said with a 70 foot lot and
take away 16 feet for side yards would
require narrow houses. Mr. Parish
said coming from Keller, we want
houses to look larger, not skinnier.
He said you are telling the builders
you want narrower houses.
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David Barfield said some have said
that North Richland Hills has too many
small houses. He said we are no
Colleyville. He asked Mr. Parish how
can we encourage the builders to build
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nicer houses. He said if we require
side or rear entry garages, it would
look nicer. He asked how could we up
grade the city. Mr. Barfield stated
he felt we should already have enough
small lots already zoned in areas not
developed. He said he felt we need to
have something nicer, now.
Mr. Parish stated he doesn't consider
2,000 and 2,200 square foot houses
with front entry garages as trashy.
He said he builds in Meadowview
Estates. He said he thinks zoning is
a way to build larger houses.
Charles Scoma, 8300 Cardinal Lane,
came forward. He stated he had
prepared a hand-out package for the
Commission and he has a slide
presentation. Mr. Scoma read a letter
to the Commission:
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"Dear Members of the P & Z Commission:
On behalf of an organization known as
Citizens for North Richland Hills, we
wish to express our appreciation for
the time and efforts you devote to the
City of North Richland Hills to help
make our city a better place to live.
In recent weeks you developed a list
of concerns and recommendations which
have been expressed over the past
years by concerned citizens of NRH.
You are to be commended for your
willingness to breach the potentially
controversial subject of zoning
ordinance revisions.
We have prepared for your
consideration the attached document
which outlines our response to the
proposed P & Z changes along with our
rationale and recommendation.
We will be happy to discuss any part
of this document with you in detail
should you so desire. Sincerely,
Charles Scoma.tI
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Mr. Scoma stated he was a developer
for many years and he does not want to
demean the developer.
Mr. Scoma stated there is a need for a
definition for tlgreenbelt". He
suggested "A belt of landscaping
bordering property designed to prevent
undesirable encroachments and enhances
the aesthetics of the property."
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Mr. Scoma, for R-l zoning, showed
slides for side and rear entry
garages. He said you needed 1,134
square feet for additional parkway or
turn around area. He said which had
you rather have, turf or concrete.
Mr. Scoma said the Commission
recommends 6 foot side yard on one
side and 10 feet on the other side,
but we recommend 15 feet on one side
and 10 feet on the other. He said at
least we will have 25 feet on one side
between the houses for landscaping.
Mr. Scoma also stated they recommend
increasing the lot size from 13,000
square feet to 14,000 square feet.
Mr. Scoma said for R-2, they recommend
to increase the side yards to 10 feet
and 15 feet; increase the lot size
from 9,000 to 11,000 square feet.
Mr. Scoma said for R-3, they feel this
classification should be kept. He
said the average house is $85,000, and
the average age is 28 years old. He
said R-3 will continue to be
important. He said the Citizens for
NRH recommends you increase the side
yard from 6 feet on each side to 12
feet on the drive side and 6 feet on
the other side and allow only side or
rear entry garages; increase the lot
size from 7,500 square feet to 9,000
square feet; and the minimum house
size remain at 1,400 square feet.
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David Barfield asked Mr. Scoma if he
had looked at the amount of lots there
are already zoned R-3. He said there
is more than enough.
Mr. Scoma said with the Grandfather
Clause of two years, he feels it is
important to keep the R-3 zoning.
Mr. Tucker stated if the property is
zoned and platted, it would stay R-3,
but if it was only zoned, it would be
good for only 2 years.
David Barfield said the majority of
the cities only have one zoning
classification with a minimum of 1,400
square foot houses, but they work with
the developers.
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Mr. Scoma said he could see no reason
why anyone would not want to build in
North Richland Hills. He said when
jobs are here, streets are here, water
and sewer are here, they will build.
He said you have to set the standards.
Mr. Scoma said for duplexes, they
recommend increasing the size from
1,000 square feet to 1,200 square
feet; allow only side or rear entry
covered parking; increase the lot size
from 3,500 to 4,500 square feet.
Mr. Scoma said for R-1-S, since this
zoning classification specifically
deals with the keeping of livestock in
a residential setting, we believe
certain modifications should be
considered. They recommend they have
a minimum of 50% in pasture land and
"feed lots" should be prohibited under
this classification. He said they
. also recommend a house size of 1,600
square feet.
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Mr. Scoma said they concur with P & Z
to delete the R-5-D duplex zoning.
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Mr. Scoma said for R-6-T Townhouse
zoning, they recommend increasing the
lot width from 20 to 30 feet; have 15
foot side yard for rear and side
parking; increase the living area from
1,000 to 1,200 square feet; and
increase the lot size from 3,000 to
3,500 square feet. Mr. Scoma said
they also recommend they be required
to have 20% rear yard.
Mr. Scoma said for R-8 zoning, they
recommend they increase side yard from
6 feet to 10 feet; increase the lot
size from 4,000 square feet to 5,000
square feet; and increase the lot
width from 40 feet to 50 feet.
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Mr. Scoma said for Multi-Family, they
should have a greenbelt with a minimum
of 25 feet in the front and rear;
increase the side building line from
15 feet to 25 feet; recommend no
parking in landscaped area; and allow
only side or rear parking.
Mr. Scoma said they recommend that
R-1-S, R-4-SD, and AG Districts be
given set backs and limitations.
Mr. Scoma said they would suggest that
in Industrial, Commercial, and Office
zoning to change the acceptable south
pressure level for different times of
day. He said you need to look to see
if the commercial area backs up to
residential. He said they also are
asking for greenbelts in these
classifications. Mr. Scoma said some
times in these areas there are trucks
that back up to the back property line
to turn around.
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Mr. Scoma said the Association wanted
him to address the buffers as
greenbelts, and they think sidewalks
should be required in every
subdivision.
Chairman Schwinger thanked Mr. Scoma
for his effort.
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Mr. Lueck asked Mr. Scoma where he got
the figure 28 years old.
Mr. Scoma said it came from an Urban
Study done last year. He said the mix
would be an average of 28 to 28 1/2
years old. He said they have to have
a place to start.
Mr. Lueck said it looks like Mr. Scoma
is requesting R-1 to be Super R-1, R-2
to be R-l, and R-3 to be R-2.
Mr. Scoma said not necessarily. He
said it takes so much for side and
rear entry garages and you would have
concrete instead of a green area.
Mr. Lueck said Mr. Scoma's definition
of a buffer is different from his.
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Mr. Scoma said a greenbelt is more
desirable.
Mr. Lueck said he thinks of a block of
houses as a buffer.
Mr. Bowen said it is a transition
area.
Mr. Tucker said it is transitional
zoning.
Mr. Bowen said he was of the op1n10n
that R-I-S was to have the same
minimums and setbacks as R-1.
Mr. Tucker said that was the
intension, but it did not get put in.
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Kathy Robinson, 6463 Chilton Drive,
came forward. She stated she is the
Chairman of the Beautification
Committee. Ms. Robinson said there
needs to be a definition of
landscaping. She read from the
dictionary. She said she would like
to see more green areas to draw more
people to North Richland Hills.
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RECESS
Chairman Schwinger called a recess at
8:35 P. M.
BACK TO ORDER
Chairman Schwinger called the meeting
back to order with the same members
present at 8:40 P. M.
John Barfield, 416 Lovella, Hurst, TX,
came forward. He stated he is a
builder and developer. He said he
knew the developer who built
Thornberry in Colleyville and for 3
years nothing happened; then it turned
around and was a success. Mr.
Barfield said Colleyville has their
problems, too. He said trends come
and go; he said we need to have an
overall mix of zonings. Mr. Barfield
said if you increase the lot sizes, it
would cost more and we would have to
pass the increase on to the customer.
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Mr. John Barfield said the developer
will go where the people are buying.
He said if you require side or rear
entry garages, you would have to have
30 feet. He said the lots would have
to be 80 feet wide. Mr. Barfield said
he likes to put side or rear entry
garages "if he wants to".
Mr. Tucker said these recommendations
are from the Commission, not from the
City Staff. He said the garage can be
open to the street, but in the rear.
Mr. John Barfield said it could be a
detached garage.
Mr. Tucker said it could be. He said
this would give more parking.
Mr. John Barfield said if R-3 zoning
is a buffer, he has a piece of R-3 and
a lady has about a 30 foot strip of
AG next to it, then there is more R-3.
He asked could she get R-3 there.
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Mr. Tucker said he felt like she
could.
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Mr. Lueck asked Mr. Barfield which
would sell better, houses with rear or
side entry garages or front garages.
Mr. John Barfield said he knew the
rear or side entry garages would be
more expensive.
Mr. Lueck asked Mr. Barfield if he
would be able to sell them at the
price needed.
Mr. John Barfield said Fox and Jacobs
prefers R-3. He said they have some
R-3 and R-2 next to his R-l. He said
they were interested in purchasing
some of the land, but they would not
consider R-1. He said they might
consider R-2. Mr. Barfield said
people now are looking for smaller
lots and larger houses.
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Matt Speight, Bedford, came forward.
He said he builds 2,200 to 2,600
square foot houses with front garages.
He said people are more concerned with
the size of the house than they are
the garage. He said such additions as
Meadow Lakes became desirable because
of what is around it, the golf course
and lakes.
David Barfield asked Mr. Speight what
his suggestion would be to get cars
off the street.
Mr. Speight said you have a 2 car
garage plus 2 places to park. He said
the main problem is most people use
their garage for storage. He said he
feels you should upgrade the houses
and not worry about the parking.
Mr. Bowen said there is a city
ordinance against parking on the
street at night. He said it is not
enforced.
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J. B. Sandlin, 405 Woodbrier Court,
Bedford, came forward. He said he has
been building in North Richland Hills
for many years. He said he does not
see anything wrong with North Richland
Hills, he thinks it is a fine city.
Mr. Sandlin said he also builds in
Colleyville. He said there is a very
limited demand for houses and lots in
Colleyville. He said he is building
$130,000 to $150,000 houses with front
garages. He said if it is the right
location, they will sell. Mr. Sandlin
said he plans to build 500 houses this
year in Tarrant County.
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Mr. Sandlin said that Bedford and
Hurst do not have all these
requirements. He said we are having a
real problem with people being against
the Birdville School District. He
said they want to be in HEB School
District.
Mr. Sandlin said what the Commission
has recommended, R-1 is okay; R-2, he
is opposed to the rear or side entry
garages and the 10 foot and 6 foot
side yards, you haven't solved the
problem. Mr. Sandlin said he has no
problem with the minimum size of the
houses; he said most of his are 2,000
to 2,200 square feet. Mr. Sandlin
said R-3, we need affordable houses.
He said he would hope the Commission
would not zone out our children, the
firemen, and city people. Mr. Sandlin
said sidewalks are nice, but
expensive.
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Alice Scoma, 8300 Cardinal Lane, came
forward. She said Mr. Barfield and
Mr. Sandlin both said that North
Richland Hills is a wonderful city,
but neither of them live here. She
said she used to live in the same area
as Mr. Tucker, which is a very nice
neighborhood. She said when you have
a lovely home in a desirable
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neighborhood with rear entry garages,
it will sell right away.
Ms. Scoma said the problem with
Birdville School District, they have
many minorities in the western area.
She said there are Asian children who
cannot speak English who have to take
those Team Tests; then the School gets
a low rating.
Mr. Parish asked if he could speak
again. He said you are going to have
street parking regardless if you have
a front, side or rear entry garage.
Mr. Sandlin came forward. He said he
wants to make it clear that he was not
critizing Birdville School District.
He said he loves BISD, but people will
request other schools. Mr. Sandlin
said BISD is lax on Public Relations.
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David Barfield said we have problems
with subdivision fences, the ones the
developer puts up and only lasts until
the last lot is sold. He said he felt
the control of the fences should be
in the ordinance. He said if it were
built to code, it would last 25 years.
David Barfield said there should be a
way to build 50% masonary with glass,
etc. He said they might consider a
I-lot PUD or they might could go to
the Zoning Board of Adjustment.
Mr. Bowen said this Commission takes
no issue pertaining to the school.
Mr. Bowen said in all residential uses
we have conditional uses such as
churches. He said he feels that
churches should be required to rezone
to a "U" classification so people in
the neighborhood will have a say in
what goes in next to them.
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ADJOURNMENT
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Mr. Wood stated he had a call from Dr.
Tom Duer who was unable to attend, but
wanted to say he supports the rear and
side entry garages.
Mr. Sanford said in regard to the one
lot PD, he feels we do not need to
start that, we do not need one lot
subdivisions.
Mr. Lueck asked David Barfield about
the fences he was speaking of.
David Barfield said they are common
throughout the city. He said if they
would build the base according to
code, they would last for many years.
Chairman Schwinger closed the Public
Hearing.
The meeting adjourned at 9:25 P. M.
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