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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPZ 1987-09-24 Minutes . MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF NORTH RICHLAND HILLS, TEXAS SEPTEMBER 24, 1987 7:30 P. M. CALL TO ORDER The meeting was called to order by the Chairman, Don Bowen, at 7:40 P. M. ROLL CALL PRESENT: Chairman Vice Chairman Secretary Alt. Members Dir. Planning/Dev. P & Z Coordinator Don Bowen Mark Wood John Schwinger George Tucker Manny Tricoli Richard Royston Wanda Calvert ABSENT: Carole Flippo Chairman Bowen recognized students from Ms. Staples Advanced Social Science Class from Richland High School. . CONSIDERATION OF THE MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 10, 1987 Mr. Wood made the motion to approve the minutes as written. This motion was seconded by Mr. Tricoli and the motion carried 4-0 with Chairman Bowen abstaining since he was not present for the entire meeting. 1. PS 87-36 Consideration of adoption of the revised Subdivision Ordinance #195. Chairman Bowen opened the Public Hearing and called for those wishing to speak to please come forward. Doug Long, Consulting Engineer, came forward. He stated he was concerned with the length of streets being no more than 1,000 feet. He requested the Ordinance be more flexible and maybe go to 1,200 feet or be approved by the Commission. . Mr. Long said page 34 also gives the requirements for cuI de sacs; it said no cuI de sac may exceed 500 feet. He was concerned where you start the measurement of the cuI de sac. Page 2 P & Z Minutes September 24, 1987 . Mr. Long was also concerned with the height of a curb being only 6 inches. He felt there should be some lead way. He said it might need to be deeper to carry more water. Mr. Long felt it should be left to the discretion of the developer. Mr. Wood said he read the Ordinance to be a minimum of 6 inch curb. Mr. Royston said he did not feel there is a need for 8, 9, or 10 inch curbs to carry the drainage. He said they could put the water between the houses into the storm drain. Mr. Long said he felt the 6 inch should be a minimum. Mr. Royston said he was not against being flexible. . Mr. Long said he is concerned about the storm drainage. He said in the old Ordinance it exempted Fossil Creek and Little Bear Creek from having to be fully lined concrete channels. Mr. Royston said these should be added back into this Ordinance. Mr. Long stated he is also concerned they could not dedicate flood prone property. Mr. Long said there should be some lead way regarding lot sizes and cuI de sac and street lengths. He said he feels this could be approved by the Commission. Mr. Tucker said it is not the intent of the Commission to not work with the developer, but the Commission does not want to have an open door for everything. . Mr. Long also mentioned the requirement for set back lines. . . . Page 3 P & Z Minutes September 24, 1987 Mr. Royston said a statement would be put in the Ordinance that they must reference the Zoning Ordinance since the set back lines are different for different zoning classifications. Mr. Long questioned the definition of a "Subdivider". Mark Hannon, Consulting Engineer, came forward. He is concerned that variances would only be granted in hardship cases. He said he felt it should be in the public interest. Mr. Hannon said he felt there should be a procedure of appeal for a denial of a case. He said if the developer could not agree with the Planning and Zoning Commission, he should be allowed to go to the City Council. Mr. Hannon said he felt some changes should be made in the Short Form Plat. He said he felt there are times when a piece of land does not need two looks (preliminary and final). He said he felt the process could be speedier. Mr. Hannon said page 25, the City-Developer Agreements, should be revised. Mr. Hannon said he felt the technical section should not be a part of the Ordinance; it should be handled by the Staff. He said he felt there should be more lead way. He said he felt the curbs should be from 6" to 8" and the length of streets and cuI de sacs should be flexible. Mr. Long came forward. He asked about the drive approaches for Commercial property. He questioned denying access without compensation. Mr. Royston stated denying access has occurred on Rufe Snow Drive and Davis Boulevard. Page 4 P & Z Minutes September 24, 1987 . Mr. Tucker said this requirement is in the Ordinance and is being enforced at this time. Mr. Royston said it is subject to site plan approval by the Public Works and Planning and Development. He said it is functioning. Mr. Long said he is concerned with the requirement of additional easements for the access ways for maintenance of drainage channels. He said in many cases he puts up fences on the concrete line. Mr. Long said he was not sure of the need for ramps. He said it looks nicer to have the fences up. Mr. Long requested this be by approval of the Commission. He said the developer could have an overflow flume which could make it hard to have the 20 foot easement. . Mr. Royston said this requirement came from the Public Works Department. He said they could add "or as approved". Mr. Tucker said with this requirement, the city has to maintain the drainage channels. He said he is in agreement the Ordinance should say " as approved" . Mr. Royston said it is hard to write every detail. He said he just tried to give the base lines. Mr. Tucker said no matter how much re-writing, they would find someone who has other ideas. Chairman Bowen closed the Public Hearing. Mr. Tucker thanked the Engineers for taking the time to read the proposed Ordinance and to make these comments. . Chairman Bowen also thanked the Engineers for their comments. Page 5 P & Z Minutes September 24, 1987 . PS 87-36 POSTPONED Mr. Tucker made the motion to postpone PS 87-36 and have at least one more meeting on it and then send it on to the City Council. This motion was seconded by Mr. Wood and the motion carried 5-0. Chairman Bowen stated this Ordinance would be put on the agenda for October 8th. ADJOURNMENT The meeting adjourned at 8:25 P. M. ~æ4~ Chi .p 1 · & 'z · C·· alrman annlng onlng ommlSS10n . .