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HomeMy WebLinkAboutZBA 1986-11-20 Minutes . MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT OF THE CITY OF NORTH RICHLAND HILLS, TEXAS NOVEMBER 20, 1986 - 7:00 P. M. CALL TO ORDER The meeting was called to order by the Chairman, Jack Roseberry, at 7:04 P.M. ROLL CALL PRESENT: Chairman Secretary Members P & Z Coordinator Jack Roseberry Billy Cypert Hans Kossler Harold Schubert Ron Hubbard Forrest Grubb David Barfield Wanda Calvert Alt. Members ABSENT: Richard Royston CONSIDERATION OF THE MINUTES OF OCTOBER 16, 1986 Mr. Schubert made the motion to approve the minutes as written. This motion was seconded by Mr. Grubb and the motion carried 4-0 with Mr. Cypert abstaining since he was not present. . 1. BA 86-12 Request of Quinten's Crossing Joint Venture to vary from the Zoning Ordinance #1080 on Lot 1, Block 12, Snow Heights North Addition, to be allowed to install a 6 foot wood fence instead of a masonry fence. This property is located at 6901 Northeast Loop 820. This case was returned to the agenda at the request of the Board to review the applicant's proposed fence design. Chairman Roseberry opened the Public Hearing and called for those wishing to speak in favor of this request to please come forward. . Phil Heimerman, Projects Manager with Chasewood, came forward. He stated that Tom Michaels was on his way here. Mr. Heimerman stated they plan to install a wood fence with brick columns 24 feet apart. ~ Page 2 Z B A Minutes November 20, 1986 . Chairman Roseberry asked if he had any plans or drawings to show the Board. Mr. Heimerman stated he gave the drawings to Greg Wheeler on Friday and Mr. Wheeler stated that was all he needed. Mr. Heimerman gave a photo to the Chairman of a fence like they plan to construct. Ms. Calvert stated she was of the opinion that since Chasewood did not bring plans to put in the Board's packets, Chasewood would furnish plans at the meeting. Mr. Heimerman said that Mr. Wheeler has the plans. . Tom Michaels, Vice President of construction with Chasewood, came forward. He stated he had been detained in traffic. Chairman Roseberry asked Mr. Michaels if he had anything other than the picture to show the Board. Mr. Michaels stated they gave their only copy of the plans to Greg Wheeler. He stated he met with Mr. Wheeler and got it all worked out. Mr. Michaels stated they plan to construct a white pine fence with brick columns 24 feet apart. Mr. Grubb asked Mr. Michaels if he realized the Board stipulated redwood or cedar. . Mr. Michaels stated he did not. He stated that after meeting with Mr. Wheeler, they started running down the cost of the beams and steel posts. Mr. Michaels said he asked Mr. Wheeler if he had a problem with going with 24 feet between the columns and Mr. Wheeler said he had no problem with it. ~ Page 3 Z B A Minutes November 20, 1986 . Chairman Roseberry said the Board did not consider the cost. He said the Board made certain stipulations that they expected Chasewood to meet. Mr. Michaels stated he came up with a compromise with Mr. Wheeler. Mr. Grubb said the Board gave Chasewood instructions on how the fence was to be built. Chairman Roseberry stated the construction and plan for the fence was expressed at the last meeting. Greg Wheeler came in at 7:20 P. M. . Mr. Wheeler came forward. He presented the drawing of the fence to the Board. He stated they plan to put the columns on 25 foot centers with 2 galvanized posts. He said the columns will have a 12 inch diameter pier pad and the base would be 13~ inches with 6 inches deep. Chairman Roseberry stated that after looking at this drawing he did not believe any engineer would accept it. Mr. Grubb stated the Board gave strict requirements to go by. Mr. Michaels said he was of the opinion he was to get with Mr. Wheeler and work out a plan for the fence. Mr. Wheeler stated he thought the Board had just given guidelines to go by so he agreed to present this plan to the Board. He said he did not know the Board wanted exactly as they had stated. . Chairman Roseberry said he was afraid that with this plan the columns would fall over after a few years. Page 4 Z B A Minutes November 20, 1986 . Mr. Michaels asked if he found an engineer to accept these plans, would the Board also accept it. Mr. Grubb stated if Chasewood does not want to accept the compromise the Board stated, then the Board will go back to the original requirement. Chairman Roseberry called for order. . Mr. Barfield stated he is an architect and he has looked at several subdivisions with fences. He said if they are not constructed right, one column will lean one way and one lean another way. He stated you must have piers. Mr. Barfield stated that was the reason for the continuous footing. He said he was concerned that the columns would fall over in a few years. Mr. Barfield said he had no problem with Chasewood using treated wood instead of redwood or cedar. Mr. Michaels stated he told his attorney he would not need him tonight. He said he went away from the last meeting feeling good. He said our compromise will determine whether we can accept the plan or not. Chairman Roseberry stated there was no need for Mr. Michael's attorney. He said the Board made the stipulations clear at the last meeting. Mr. Grubb asked if Mr. Michaels got a copy of the minutes of the meeting. Mr. Michaels stated he did not. Mr. Grubb stated that Mr. Michaels was present at the meeting and heard what the Board said. . Mr. Wheeler stated he did not see the minutes until today, but he was aware the Board stated 16 foot centers with galvanized posts and brick columns. Page 5 Z B A Minutes November 20, 1986 . . BA 86-12 APPROVED WITH STIPULATIONS . Mr. Wheeler stated he felt they could go with the 24 foot centers, but said he instructed Chasewood to not start anything without the Board's consent. Chairman Roseberry stated there are brick columns allover the city that are falling down. He said the deminions you are talking just won't hold up. Mr. Michaels stated their intention is to put a footing. He said they plan to drill down for a small pier. Mr. Kossler stated the Board will try one more time to settle the requirement. He stated the Board wants masonry columns on 16 foot centers with continuous footing. Mr. Grubb stated he would go with the treated wood. Chairman Roseberry asked Mr. Wheeler if he knew what the Board wanted. Mr. Wheeler stated the Board wants brick columns on 16 foot centers with continuous footing, pad and piers certified by an engineer, galvanized posts on 8 feet and use treated wood or redwood or cedar. Chairman Roseberry stated there needs to be a depth stipulation also. Mr. Kossler made the motion to approve BA 86-12 to allow the City Staff to work with Mr. Michaels to work out the following stipulations: Put brick columns on 16 foot centers with continuous footing, columns with pad and pier certified by an engineer, galvanized posts on 8 foot with treated wood or redwood. This motion was seconded by Mr. Schubert and the motion carried 4-1 with Mr. Hubbard voting against. Page 6 Z B A Minutes November 20, 1986 . 2. BA 86-13 Request of William E. Pasteur, Trustee to vary from the Zoning Ordinance #1080 on Lots 1 & 12, Block 1, and Lots 1 & 12, Block 2, Spring Meadows Addition, to be allowed to construct two brick walls at the entrance to their Subdivision. The walls would be beyond the building line. This property is located at Smithfield Road and Cortland Drive and at Hewitt Street and Cortland Drive. Chairman Roseberry opened the Public Hearing and called for those wishing to speak in favor of this request to please come forward. . Laurie Brantley came forward to represent Heritage Development and Mr. Pasteur. She stated that Mr. Elliott with Elliott and Hughes Engineers was also present to answer any questions the Board might have. Ms. Brantley stated they are requesting to build two brick walls at each entrance to their subdivision with a stockade screening fence to the corner. She stated they have started four homes and feel this would be a nice and pleasing entrance to the subdivision. Chairman Roseberry stated that the request is for a variance to build beyond the building line. Ms. Brantley stated the fence would be owned and cared for by the property owner. Mr. Schubert asked if the wall would become the responsibility of the property owner. Mr. Barfield asked who would maintain and care for the fence. . ~ Page 7 Z B A Minutes November 20, 1986 . Mr. Walter Elliott came forward. He stated the fence would become the property of the owner of the lot. Mr. Barfield stated he was concerned about the sight. He asked Mr. Wheeler how much length do they require. Mr. Wheeler said usually 25 feet. Mr. Elliott stated the fence would be 9~ feet from the curb on Hewitt and 13~ feet from the curb on Smithfield Road. Chairman Roseberry asked if there was any way it could be set on the building line. Mr. Elliott stated that if it was built on the building line they would connect it to the house. . Mr. Barfield asked if the City plans to widen Smithfield Road in the future. Mrs. Calvert stated they have already given the extra right of way for widening. Mr. Barfield asked how far can you see down the street. Mr. Elliott stated there are school zones there. He said if you turned right you could probably see 100 to 150 feet. Mr. Barfield asked if they could make the wall 4 feet then slope it up to the wood fence. . Mr. Elliott stated he would be happy to get with Mr. Wheeler and take a 4 by 8 sheet of plywood out there and see if you could see okay. Mr. Elliott said his company feels they need to do something to enhance the subdivision so they could sell the lots. Page 8 Z B A Minutes November 20, 1986 . Chairman Roseberry asked if you could see over the 4 feet in a small car. Mr. Elliott said they could lower it. Mr. Barfield said he would be happier if they would lower it to make sure you can have good clearance. He said a car going 50 miles an hour has to have 250 feet to stop. Mr. Hubbard asked if the homeowners are to maintain the fence, how will the city enforce it. Mr. Wheeler said the city would sight them for unpleasant premises. Mr. Hubbard asked how the individual would know the fence is his. . Ms. Brantley stated it is disclosed to them at the time of closing on the property. Mr. Elliott said they usually put up fences for the property owners. He said they plan to put up a stockade fence across the back on all the lots. Mr. Schubert asked if the fence would be inside the property line or on the property line. Mr. Elliott said it would be just inside the property line. Chairman Roseberry called for those wishing to speak in opposition to this request to please come forward. There being no one wishing to speak, the Chairman closed the Public Hearing. . Mr. Barfield said he would be in favor of sending it to the City Staff to be sure the visibility is right on Smithfield Road. Page 9 Z B A Minutes November 20, 1986 . Chairman Roseberry said he thought it should be 3~ feet high. Mr. Elliott said they set back 10 feet plus 9~ feet from the curb. Chairman Roseberry asked Mr. Elliott if they could set back 15 feet instead of the 10 feet. Mr. Elliott stated they could. He said they have a 20 foot building line there. BA 86-13 APPROVED WITH STIPULATIONS Mr. Hubbard made the motion to approve BA 86-13 with the stipulation that the dimension be changed from 10 feet to 15 feet to the face of the columns. This motion was seconded by Mr. Schubert and the motion carried 5-0. . ADJOURNMENT The meeting adjourned at 8:05 P.M. nt .