HomeMy WebLinkAboutPZ 1983-05-19 Minutes
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CALL TO ORDER
ROLL CALL
1. PZ 83-25
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MINUTES OF THE SPECIAL MEETING OF THE
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION OF THE
CITY OF NORTH RICHLAND HILLS, TEXAS
MAY 19, 1983 - 7:30 P.M.
The meeting was called to order by
the Chairman, George Tucker, at
7:30 P.M.
PRESENT:
CHAIRMAN
MEMBERS
George Tucker
Don Bowen
Mark Wood
Marjorie Nash
Mark Hannon
John Schwinger
Allen Bronstad
Desi Smyth
ALT. MEMBER
ASST. DIR. PW/U
CLERK
Mark Wood asked to be excused from
this Commission meeting due a conflict
of interest in this matter. The
reason being he lives within 200 feet
of this proposed rezoning.
Request of W. Brown Custom Builders,
Inc. to rezone some tracts of land in
W. A. Trimble Survey, Abstract 1520,
R. P. Barton Survey, Abstract 175,
and T. Akers Survey, Abstract 19,
from their present classifications
of Planned Development, Agriculture,
and Local Retail to proposed
classifications of Multi-Family,
Planned Development, and Specific
Use-Golf Course. This property is
located on the south side of
Northeast Loop 820 and is bounded
on the east by Meadow Lakes Addition
and on the south by Fossil Creek
Trails Addition.
The Chairman opened the Pubic Hearing
and called for those wishing to speak
in favor of this zoning request to
please come forward.
Marion Massey, Attorney, came forward
to represent the developers of this
request. He presented a conceptual
plan of the proposed request.
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Mr. Massey stated that there are two
particular factors of concern the
people of this area had. One being
the golf course and the other being
the repair of the lake.
Mr. Massey stated that the dam would
have to be repaired with the approval
of the Texas Water Board. It would
take about $750,000 to properly
fix the dam, channel beneath the dam
clean out and dredge out the lake to
get it back close to the level it
was.
He stated item #2 in priority is to
alleviate traffic problems which will
ultimately be a problem regardless
how the land is developed.
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Mr. Massey stated that W. Brown
Builders, Inc. got into the picture
in 1976. In 1974, Tracts 1 & 2 were
zoned Local Retail. When Brown
Builders came into the picture and
until the present time, the owner
could have put apartments that are
now asked for in the present zoning.
He stated that the zoning we are
requesting is apartments at
19 units per acre, the apartments
will decrease the traffic which would
exist if the local retail shopping
center went in by 1/3 or to say it
another way, the apartments would
create only 1/3 the traffic that
a shopping center would.
Mr. Massey stated that they had
contacted the State Highway Department
and had a letter from Mr. French,
District Design Engineer,
which suggests that we propose to
the City of North Richland Hills that
we construct a street which we will
call Colonial Drive up to the existing
bridge that is up on Loop 820, east of
the railroad crossing.
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He stated this would give direct
access to Loop 820 eastbound. It
would be a one way horseshoe
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turnaround that would take traffic
to the west very similar to what you
see under most interstate highways.
Mr. Massey presented a diagram of
how the turnaround would take traffic
back to the west.
Chairman Tucker stated that traffic
coming from the west could skip
taking the Rufe Snow exit by coming
up over the bridge going into the
subdivision.
Mr. Massey stated that although the
apartments would create some traffic
the new street would dictate a
convenience for a number of people
coming in and out of the subdivision.
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He stated that the next item of
concern was the golf course which 2/3
if not 3/4 was actually in the flood
plain and in Haltom City. Most of
which is in the City of North Richland
Hills is actually useable property
that the developer is giving up for
a good buffer zone.
Mr. Massey stated that the conceptual
plan here tonight has some adjustments
from the previous plan.
He stated that many probably felt that
how do we know the developers are
going to do what they say they are
going to do.
Mr. Massey then stated that they
wanted to be tied to the commitments
that item #1, the dam would be con-
structed first and foremost and/or
the money be put up in escrow with
the City.
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Secondly, item #2, the bridge would
be built or the money put up with
the City of North Richland Hills or
the State of Texas, whichever
depository is represented, and
obviously when we put our money up
that's about all they can do dealing
with the State of Texas.
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Mr. Massey stated that thirdly,
the golf course is ready to go,
however, we will have the developers
put up a performance bond.
He stated that these three things
will be done first before any
construction begins. He also
wanted to emphasis that it would
be about six years before all of
this is completed.
Mr. Massey stated that they did have
a deadline of June 30th to have an
acceptable plan or Continential Bank
will take over the mortgage.
He presented the Commission with the
letter from Mr. French and a petition
for the request with 49 names on it
with 28 names within 200 feet.
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Chairman Tucker asked who the
developer is and who will be the
developer on all tracts, or if this
is zoned the way it is requested,
will the tracts be split up and
sold off to other developers.
Mr. Massey stated that he could only
tell him what the immediate plans are.
Except for the golf course, Brown
Builders plan to develop the
residential lots and their plan is
to build and develop the condominiums.
He stated that if someone comes up
and says they are going to take it
off our hands and do the same thing,
I could only speak as if I was the
developer, and if I could get close
to the same return without the
headaches, then I would probably sell
the property. But we want whatever
restrictions you feel are necessary
or warranted in order that whoever
would take this over would be
required to do the same thing as
we are.
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Mr. Massey stated that it would not
be a low rent district when you
consider the land cost and the
developers cost. They have to get a
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high return on these apartments,
rent wise.
Mr. Hannon stated that his main
concern was the traffic in this
area. It appears that the solution
is to build an access road on the
south, as well as bridges over the
railroad to the west & on and off
ramps at that location.
Mr. Hannon asked if his client
would be willing to construct these
or agree to contract with the City
to have the State construct these.
Mr. Massey stated no because they
have looked into this and the cost
of extending that railroad bridge is
so phenomenal that the State Highway
Department said there is no plan
nor will there ever be any for that
to be done. He then asked if it was
the service road where it goes thru
that was being discussed.
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Mr. Hannon stated that he considered
this to be a potentially hazardous
situation having to come down on the
freeway.
Mr. Massey stated that their engineer
said there was no way and so did the
State Highway Dept. As far as the
potential traffic hazard, it is my
understanding that the State Highway
Dept. designed this and the fact is
this is the required distances and
they considered this to be
non-hazardous.
Chairman Tucker asked how do you
assure the City and how do you give
the Commission and City Council the
chance to really approve your plan
as Planned Development. You have a
conceptual plan, but according to
ordinance, it does not meet the
ordinance as it is written today on
the submission of this plan.
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He stated that the ordinance states
that we want to know where the
buildings are going within
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limitations of construction, where
are the parking lots, what is the
parking ratio, where are the green
areas going to be and what is the
real density going to be. When you
say a conceptual plan that means
it is subject to some pretty good
changes when you get into some
engineering problems.
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Mr. Gene Worrell, Engineer for the
developers, stated that on projects
of this magnitude and after reviewing
your ordinance on planned development,
the detailed requirement on planned
development approval is substantial
more than what we have presented to
the Commission and Staff. In
discussion with the Staff, we asked if
we could submit a planned development
district request and establish the
criteria in accordance with your
zoning ordinance and provide in that
planned development district
ordinance, that prior to issuance of
any building permits, detailed site
plans would be submitted and approved
by the Commission and City Council
before a final subdivision plat could
be filed.
He stated that it is our feeling that
by using the criteria established in
your subdivision ordinance as this
property is developed under
and provided further in the PD
ordinance the final site plan would
have to be approved before the
issuance of any building
permits,thereby assuring that these
plans are in conformance with the
conceptual plan. This would give the
City the final review of the product
before it is ever approved.
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Chairman Tucker stated that in normal
circumstances in zoning you have to
give a site plan anyway. It is
unusual on the PD portion because
actually you are asking for a zoning
change then going through the normal
zoning channels. You use the word PD
and I am wondering why you use it.
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Mr. Massey stated that they have found
that if you say planned development,
that most the time those who under-
stand zoning feel more comfortable
that the City has a better ax over the
developer to see that he does what he
says he's going to do. In a mere
zoning change you can do anything
required in that zoning. We under-
stand that the people want to know the
whole project and frankly, it is so
huge that we wanted the PD so there
would be a last say in what we would
have to put in.
Chairman Tucker stated that what
Mr. Massey was stating is that the
City can tie them to a schedule.
Mr. Worrell stated that what they were
trying to do is assure you that we
are going to do what we say. If we
are tied to a schedule and if we don't
meet that schedule then the zoning
would be null and void.
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Mr. Jack Mayberry, 6405 Riviera, came
forward. He stated that he built the
first house in Meadow Lakes in 1977
and he is president of the association
that was formed to save the lake, but
tonight he is speaking for himself and
not the association.
He stated that he agreed with
Mr. Massey in effect that the lake
needs to be fixed. He can't see why
anyone would want to live out here and
not get some benefit out of it. If
the lake is not fixed then it will be
an open storm sewer by this time next
year.
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Mr. Mayberry stated that being a CPA,
he is very familiar with builder's
costs, profit motives, and developing
and if anybody in the audience thinks
that phase will ever be developed
100% single family homes similar to
the homes in Meadow Lakes, then he
would like to sell them some uranium
stock.
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He stated the lots would be just too
expensive to sell and there is no way
you could develop that into all single
family homes. If this fails to pass
then it will be a long time before
we see anyone else develop this area.
Mr. Mayberry stated that if this
request is turned down the residents
may see a worse plan several years
from now. He stated that he thinks
this is the best deal for the area.
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Mr. Richard Gallaher, 4809 Woodcreek,
came forward. He stated that he was
an officer of the Meadow Lakes Assoc.
and that they had been working for a
year trying to get the concept that
the only alternative is apartments
in the entire area and in the year it
has developed into the plan you see
here. We as residents of this area
requested that the developer include
everything you see on the plan here
as planned development. We did not
want the proposal that was brought to
you several weeks ago where the
apartment area was straight apartment
zoning. Our fear was that the land
would be sold off and none of the
other things would happen. As a total
plan the majority of the people and
Meadow Lakes Assoc. are prepared to
accept this concept.
Mr. Hannon asked if he was speaking
for the homeowner association.
Mr. Gallagher replied yes. He was
speaking for 16 members of the assoc.
Mr. Bill Fenimore, 6041 Riviera,
came forward. He stated he was
in favor of this request because
they are providing for another
way out of the area at their cost.
They are planning to construct a
bridge which is totally unbelievable
to me as a developer. He also stated
that apartments are a lot better
than a shopping center or mall.
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Mr. Bert McDaniel, 6409 Meadow Lakes
Drive, came forward. He stated he
was neither for or against but had
a question about the turnaround.
Mr. McDaniel asked how many lanes
it would be, right now the left
turn lanes back up greatly on
the access road.
Mr. Worrell stated that it would
be an additional left turn lane
and widened.
Mr. McDaniel asked how the residents
who don't live on the lake were
suspose to have access to it.
Mr. Worrell stated the developer has
reserved a lot to provide an access.
They were not sure if it would be
private or public access.
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Mr. David Reasor, 6545 Lakeside
Circle, came forward. He stated his
main concern was the condition of
the lake. It is literally turning
into a swamp. This is the best
plan that has been offered this area.
Mr. T. D. Horton, 3805 Diamond Loch W.
came forward. He stated that he is
opposed to this because of the
traffic. He did hope that they could
work out a compromise.
Chairman Tucker stated that the Comm-
ission and the City Council could
place many restrictions on this
project. We can see that any
stipulation is carried out before
any building permits are issued.
The Chairman called for those wishing
to speak in opposition of this request
to please come forward.
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Mr. Charles Herndon, 5000 Skylark,
came forward. He stated that he
was opposed to this because of the
traffic that would be generated
from tracts 1 & 2. The increase
would be approximately 2800 cars
and people. Mr. Herndon stated
he wanted single family there.
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Mr. Frank Metts, 5002 Skylark,
came forward. He stated that
he agreed with Mr. Herndon and
that this was not a satisfactory
plan to him. He presented the
Commission with a petition of
104 signatures representing 36
homes within 200 feet and 68
homes not within 200 feet.
Mr. Judd Brock, 4904 Lariat, came
forward. He stated his main
objection is the traffic problem
that would be created.
RECESS
Chairman Tucker called a recess at
9:05 P.M.
BACK TO ORDER
Chairman Tucker called the meeting
back to order at 9:25 P.M. with
the same members present.
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Mr. Gary Neisler, 6216 Riviera,
came forward. He stated that he lived
within 200 feet but did not receive
a letter notifying him of the meeting.
Mr. Neisler stated he was concerned
about the traffic. He stated he
would like to see the property south
of the power lines be single family.
Mr. Dale Mazachek, 4913 Dory, came
forward. He stated he was opposed
to this because of the increase in
density.
He also stated that as a matter of
clarification the Meadow Lakes
Association never had a formal
meeting.
Several other homeowners came forward
and stated that their main objection
was because of the traffic.
There being no one else wishing to
speak, the Chairman closed the
Public Hearing.
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Chairman Tucker stated he was aware
there wasn't more time to fully
plan this development but that was
one reason why they postponed it.
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He stated that this land will
never be single family residences.
It will be some type of commercial
or maybe multi-family with business
park mixture.
Mr. Hannon asked who the developer
was on the golf course.
Mr. Johnny Pelcher stated Mr. Jim
Redford is the architect and the
engineer on site of construction
is Jim Turf.
Mr. Hannon stated he would like
to say that this may be the last
chance to fix the lakes.
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Mr. Hannon made the motion to approve
PZ 83-25 subject to the following
stipulations. 1. The developer put
in escrow with the City the estimated
cost of the left turn bridge across
820 and agree to reimburse the City
for any additional cost over and above
the original estimate. 2. They put
in escrow with the City the estimated
cost of constructing an excess road on
the south side of 820 and agree to
reimburse the City for any additional
cost over and above the estimate.
3. They complete construction of the
lakes prior to issuance of building
permits. 4. They have executed with
contractor a contract for construction
of the golf course and appropriate
performance bond to ensure its
construction prior to issuing of
building permits. 5. All areas east
of Colonial and south of Meadow Lakes
be single family in conformance with
our existing ordinance for IF-12.
That green space be provided between
the upper and lower lakes to be a
park benefited by all the people not
living on the lake and this open space
be a minimum of five acres. That
individual site plans of development
sites be approved by this Commission
prior to issuance of building permits,
that a 6' masonry wall be constructed
on the north line of TESCO easement,
and within 150' of the south line of
the TESCO easement, the apartments
will be limited to one story, and
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finally, City Council amend the
PD ordinance to allow the approval
of this zoning, if required.
This motion was seconded by Mrs. Nash,
and the motion carried 3-1 with
Mr. Bowen voting against.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 10:10
P.M.
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