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MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION OF THE
CITY OF NORTH RICHLAND HILLS, TEXAS
MAY 26, 1983 - 7:30 P. M.
CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order by the
Chairman, George Tucker at 7:30 P. M.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT:
CHAIRMAN
SECRETARY
MEMBERS
ALT. MEMBER
COUNCILMAN
ASST. DIR. PW/U
CLERK
George Tucker
Marjorie Nash
Don Bowen
Mark Hannon
Mark Wood
John Schwinger
Richard Davis
Allen Bronstad
Desi Smyth
CONSIDERATION OF THE MINUTES
OF APRIL 28, 1983
Mr. Hannon stated he would like to
make a correction on page 25,
paragraph 7, which states the semi
vehicles would be there from 8 to 6 in
the morning, but he believes Mr. Baird
said they would only be there 8 to 9
o'clock in the evening. Mr. Hannon
said this might possibly affect the
council's thinking on this matter.
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Mr. Bowen made the motion to approve
the minutes as amended. This motion
was seconded by Mr. Wood and the
motion carried 5-0 with Mr. Hannon
abstaining since he was not present at
the beginning of the meeting.
Chairman Tucker said he would like to
reverse the order of items 9 and 10 on
the agenda. All members agreed to
this change.
1. PS 83-42
Request of Chasewood Construction
Company for preliminary plat of Lot 1,
Block 12, Snow Heights North Addition.
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Mac McWilliams with Jack R. Davis and
Associates, Dallas, came forward to
represent Chasewood Construction
Company. He stated they had reviewed
the City Engineer's comments and have
no problems with any of the comments.
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PS 83-42
APPROVED
Ms. Nash made the motion to approve
PS 83-42 subject to the Engineer's
comments. This motion was seconded by
Mr. Wood and the motion carried 5-0.
2.
PS 83-43
Request of Cross Roads Development
Company and Burk Collins Investments,
Inc. for replat of Lots 4R-l & 4R-2,
Block 10, Snow Heights North Addition.
Burk Collins came forward. He said
they plan to build a strip retail
center on this site.
Chairman Tucker asked Mr. Collins if
he had received the City Engineer's
comments.
Mr. Collins said he had not.
Chairman Tucker showed him a copy. He
said there were only two items on it
and one was a staff function.
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Mr. Hannon asked Mr. Bronstad if the
City had received the utility
easements other than what was shown on
the plat.
Mr. Bronstad said they had not.
PS 83-43
APPROVED
Mr. Hannon made the motion to approve
PS 83-43 subject to the Engineer's
comments. This motion was seconded by
Mr. Wood and the motion carried 5-0.
3.
PS 83-45
Request of Kenneth C. Whiteley for
final plat of Oak Hills Addition.
John Barfield came forward. He said
they had been out in the hall
discussing some of the items with some
of the neighbors. Mr. Barfield said
he was here to represent the 5 owners
of this property which included
himself, George Boring, Kenneth
Whiteley, Bob Jones, and Arnold Pair.
He said their engineer was Doug Long.
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Mr. Barfield said they are just about
ready to start the development in this
area. He said there are other
builders and developers who are
waiting for them to get it started.
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Doug Long, Consulting Engineer, came
forward. He said they had received
the City Engineer's letter and have
sent a response letter addressing each
comment. Mr. Long said they were out
discussing with the neighbors item #7
of the Engineer's comments regarding
discharging water to adjacent
property. He said they do not propose
to change the size of the culverts or
lower the flow line to the culverts.
Mr. Long said Mr. Barfield owns some
property to the north of this property
and they may be coming back in later
to develop it and at some time in the
future, there will probably be a need
for a concrete lined channel from the
railroad to the north. He said, at
that time, there would need to be some
fill on the property just north of the
railroad and create a ditch.
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Mr. Long said there is a massive water
line which goes through there, a 24
inch and a 12 inch, and they will
request the city's participation in
that. He said they would also be
building their half of Amundson Road
and will request the city's
participation in the extra widening.
Mr. Long said they are requesting the
Commission approve this request
contingent on getting the railroad
permits. He said they feel they will
have no problem in getting them, but
they wanted the Commission's approval
first.
Chairman Tucker asked about the
sanitary sewer when it leaves their
property. He asked if they had the
necessary easements for it.
Mr. Long said they have one off-site
easement and Mrs. Hamilton has agreed
to letting them have one, but they
have not gotten the paperwork done
yet, and also, Tarrant County has been
approached for an easement.
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Chairman Tucker asked about the double
box culverts, the two 4 feet by 5
feet; aren't they increasing the amount
of run-off in a shorter period of
time.
Mr. Long said when you do any
development, you increase the amount
of run-off. He said they have about a
third of the drainage area that they
are developing and someday, the
culvert may have to be increased. Mr.
Long said they would be building up
their land and filling in and will be
above the top of the culvert at the
railroad; they do not want to be below
it. He said they would try to
maintain their slabs at least two
above the railroad area so they will
not have a back-up of flooding. Mr.
Long said they have designed their's
for the 100 year storm.
PS 83-45
APPROVED
Mr. Hannon made the motion to approve
PS 83-45 subject to the Engineer's
comments with the exception of items
#3, 4, 6, 7, & 11 which were addressed
by the Consulting Engineer, and
subject to them showing on the plat
the minimum finished floor elevations
at least two feet above the railroad
as stated by Mr. Long.
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Mr. Long said they would agree to one
foot.
Mr. Hannon amended his motion to "at
least one foot above the railroad.
This motion was seconded by Mr. Wood
and the motion carried 5-0.
4.
PS 83-48
Request of TLB-GSC Enterprises for
preliminary plat of Lot 5, Block B,
and Block C, College Hill Addition.
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Dick Perkins, Teague NaIl & Perkins,
came forward to represent TLB-GSC
Enterprises. He said they had
received the City Engineer's comments
and have responded to them. Mr.
Perkins said they are in agreement
with the comments, but would like some
clarification and direction, or a
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waiver on items 3 and 7. He said in
the case of item 3, they would provide
an access ramp to the channel at some
point along their property. He said
they would like to request they be
allowed to place this at the far
southwest corner of the property which
would affect them the least as far as
building is concerned. Mr. Perkins
said the 20 foot easement would be a
very difficult thing for them to deal
with.
Mr. Perkins said item 7 regarding the
installation of fire hydrants for
proper coverage, his client is not
sure at this time how he is going to
layout the site of that development,
and would like to have this
requirement waived until such time as
they come in for a site layout plan or
building construction plans for the
interior portion of that block.
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Chairman Tucker asked Mr. Bronstad if
he had any objection to this.
Mr. Bronstad said he did not, but he
asked, coming off Bogard, how wide was
that drainage channel to get to this
earthen channel; would it be wide
enough for the city to get their
equipment down there. He said it
looks narrow.
Mr. Perkins said they might have to
make it wider for the equipment, but
the easement the City Engineer is
requiring from Bogart to the channel
will just have a pipe in it, because
it is just picking up the water off
Bogart. He said they would be
agreeable to making the easement wider
or provide the city access through the
development to a wider easement at the
rear.
Mr. Hannon said the 25 foot easement
on the north side of the property,
what is the bottom width of that
concrete-lined ditch.
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Mr. Perkins said he did not have the
figures with him, but it is stated on
the front of the drainage plans that
were submitted to the city staff. He
said he thought it was 12 or 15 feet.
Mr. Bronstad said he would have to
have at least a 12 foot minimum.
Chairman Tucker asked again about item
#7.
Mr. Bronstad said the Commission
should put it subject to the staff
review.
Mr. Perkins said that would be fine
with them, and if they wished, they
could restrict it to no building
permits until the fire hydrants are
in.
PS 83-48
APPROVED
Mr. Hannon made the motion to approve
PS 83-48 subject to the Engineer's
comments, subject further to the
developer providing adequate access to
the two drainage channel, subject to
the channels having a minimum paved
bottom of 12 feet in width and
providing that no building permits be
issued on this property until the fire
protection has been provided as
required in the City Ordinance which
requires a 300 foot radius from fire
hydrants. This motion was seconded by
Ms. Nash and the motion carried 5-0.
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5.
PS 83-49
Request of Alan W. HamID for replat of
Lots 8R, 9R, and lOR, Lonsdale
Addition.
Mr. Hamm came forward. He said they
have received the City Engineer's
letter and their engineer, Doug Long,
has answered them. Mr. Hamm said they
see no problem with them.
PS 83-49
APPROVED
Mr. Bowen made the motion to approve
PS 83-49 subject to the Engineer's
comments. This motion was seconded by
Mr. Wood and the motion carried 5-0.
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6.
PZ 83-15
Request of William N. Garrison to
rezone several tracts in the T.K.
Martin Survey, Abstract 1055, from
their present classification of
1F-9-1500-0ne Family Dwellings to
proposed classifications of
2F-9-Two Family Dwellings and
Multi-Family-Quads.
This property is located approximately
200 feet east of Crane Road and
extends eastward to approximately 200
feet west of Precinct Line Road.
Chairman Tucker opened the Public
Hearing and called for those wishing
to speak in favor of this request to
please come forward.
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Mr. Garrison came forward. He stated
they are requesting a portion of their
land be rezoned from IF-9 to
2F-9-Duplexes and a portion for
Specific Use for quadroplexes. Mr.
Garrison showed the Commission and the
audience exhibits of the area. He
said they have approximately 20 acres
which joins Mr. James Rust tract. Mr.
Garrison said they plan to leave 4
lots single family, then have the
duplex lots around the perimeter, and
the the southeast portion would be for
the quadroplexes.
Mr. Garrison stated he and Mr. Rust
had agreed to develop their land
together and they would hear Mr.
Rust's request next. He said Mr.
Rust's property is presently zoned
Multi-Family, but he would be
requesting, if this case goes through,
to down-zone his property to Specific
Use for quadroplexes. Mr. Garrison
said if this case is denied, he and
Mr. Rust will go their separate ways
on the development of this land.
Chairman Tucker asked how many living
units he plans for the 20 acres.
The audience yelled out "220" units.
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Mr. Hannon said he felt that since
these two cases go together, they
should be heard together, which would
also conserve time.
Mr. Garrison said he was authorized to
speak for Mr. Rust.
Chairman Tucker asked how many units
would there be including Mr. Rust's
property.
Mr. Garrison said he thought Mr.
Rust's property would fall under the
Grandfather clause.
Mr. Hannon asked what did he mean by
this, does it vary from our existing
Multi-Family zoning requirements, does
it have more density.
Mr. Bronstad said it had been zoned
Multi-Family for several years and it
might allow more density, he was not
sure.
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Mr. Hannon asked if they could find
out about that tonight.
Mr. Bronstad said they could not.
Chairman Tucker stated there were 136
living units not counting Mr. Rust's
property. He said Mr. Rust would be
cutting his down considerably at the
present Multi-Family requirement.
Mr. Hannon stated with the present
single family zoning, Mr. Garrison
would have approximately 70 units
instead of 136 units.
Chairman Tucker said the total for
both projects would be approximately
216 to 220 units.
Mr. Garrison showed more details of
the plot plan and elevation plans of
the project.
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Chairman Tucker called for those
wishing to speak in opposition to this
request to please come forward.
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Gerald Stewart, 8840 Main Street, came
forward. He said he was speaking for
the homeowners both in North Richland
Hills and in Hurst who are opposed to
this request. He stated he has a
petition with over 200 names who are
in opposition to this request.
Mr. Stewart read from the City Zoning
Ordinance which states Multi-Family
zoning shall be located near major
thoroughfares and preferably joining
business zoning. He stated there is
no business zoned property around; it
is all single family homes, and the
streets are not major thoroughfares.
Mr. Stewart stated these people here
invested their life savings here to
provide a home to raise their families
in the peace and quiet of this
neighborhood.
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Mr. Stewart said in 2F-9 zoning, he
can build 2~ stories with 1000 square
foot floor space and 3 stories with
750 square foot floor space in the
Multi-Family zoning. He said this is
not congenial to the property out
there now. Mr. Stewart said the
people who live in this area feel that
what they have is worth defending. He
said with this development, it would
mean having lease property and rental
property in the area and they do not
need or want that. Mr. Stewart said
they want the same type development
as is already there. He said they
oppose this pyramid effect and this
also applies to Mr. Rust's request.
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Mr. Stewart said they met with the
Planning and Zoning members who asked
for a compromise, but the homeowners
do not want a compromise. He said he
talked with several real estate people
who said these 8 single family lots
they show will be unsellable. Mr.
Stewart said they are having trouble
selling homes in the area now and will
have more trouble if duplexes and
quadroplexes go in there.
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Mr. Stewart said in regard to the
drainage, the people west of Crane
Road can not stand anymore water; it
is already in the flood area.
Mr. Stewart said in regard to access
to this property, they say Precinct
Line Road is scheduled for a 5 lane by
1990, but it is not there now and
does not help us now. He said it is a
single lane road now and very
congested. Mr. Stewart said Crane
Road is also a congested county road
that can not possibly handle this
development.
Mr. Stewart said he had rather have
the single family plan that Mr.
, Garrison submitted previously.
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Earl Region, 9200 block of Martin
Road, came forward. He said he owns
property to the south of this
property. He said his property is 400
feet wide and 800 feet deep. Mr.
Region said he was concerned about the
drainage. He said water had already
been in Mr. Campbell's house who told
him he saw 8 inches of water going
down Martin last year. Mr. Region
said the 40 foot drainage shown goes
to his property and does not know how
he can do that legally.
Chairman Tucker said without
easements, he can not.
Mr. Region said he has not given an
easement to go across his property.
Chairman Tucker said this problem
would be taken care of in the platting
and if Mr. Region did not give the
easement, he could not put the
drainage there.
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Cleta Oggier, 6821 Precinct Line Road,
came forward. She said their property
was to the north of the property in
question. Mrs. Oggier said Mr.
Garrison stated his reason for
requesting this change to Multi-Family
was the escalation cost, but she said
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the escalation cost is not as great as
he says. She said for the last two
years, there has not been a demand for
single family lots, but now there is.
Mrs. Oggier said he could sell these
lots and still make money. She said
she understands the cost of installing
utilities, etc. has increased, but the
value of the land has increased, also.
Mrs. Oggier said the roads are not
adequate now and it would be
multiplied with this development.
Mrs. Oggier said in the summer, they
have a shortage of drinking water.
Mrs. Oggier said she was requesting
this property be left single family.
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Stanley Tatarevich, 6820 Crane Road,
came forward. He said in regard to
the streets, Hurst has turned down the
widening of Precinct Line Road until
1990, and Crane Road, thanks to
Tarrant County, they put some gravel
on it; and Martin Lane being only two
lanes, there is hardly enough room for
two cars to pass and it gives very
little room for the children to walk
to school.
Mr. Tatarevich said about the sewer
system, there is an 8" line going down
Main Street, from Crane Road, down to
the creek that joins Smithfield Junior
High and at that point we have a 10"
and a 12" line that goes South. He
said with the increased development,
this would be overloaded and Hurst is
not going to let them tie onto their's
because their's is full.
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Mr. Tatarevich said they do have a
water shortage. He said it is not
very good when you are in the middle
of taking a shower, and you find you
have no water. He said it doesn't
happen one time a year, it happens 5,
6, to 7 times a year without any
adequate warning. Mr. Tatatevich said
if you want to water your lawn in the
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summertime, you get up at 3 o'clock in
the morning and water, but you can't
water any later than 4 o'clock because
the people in GlenAnn gets up to water
their yard at 4 o'clock in the
morning.
Mr. Tatarevich said the drainage was
bad, it drains down and when it rains
you tread water for about 100 yards on
Martin.
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Mr. Tatarevich said the two school
systems are already full. He said he
called Smithfield Junior High and was
told they had 825 students and they
could only handle 90 more students
within the next 2 years, but said they
were experiencing heavy problems in
the cafeteria now. He said Porter
Elementary is located in Hurst and the
Principal said it has 493 students now
and they can only take an additional
50 students and their cafeteria
problems are the same way. So the
school system would have to be
updated.
Mr. Tatarevich said Multi-Family
housing does not pay their share of
taxes
Mr. Tatarevich said his main reason
for not wanting this development is he
built out there 16 years ago and they
have a nice house with a green area,
wild life, and he hates to see all the
birds, squirrels, road runners, and
rabbits go and get apartments in their
place. He said he requests the
Commission take into consideration
every property owner in this area and
give them a fair shake.
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Oscar Oggier, 6821 Precinct Line Road,
came forward. He said regardless who
developed this property or what
developed there, he and his wife are
asking for water and sewer for their
West 2.5 acres. He said, they want
(provided the Commission approves) an
8' fence with 6" posts all along their
South property line.
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Mr. Oggier said Mr. Garrison is
requesting a 81.5% increase in square
footage and a 159% increase in living
quarters over single family and Mr.
Rust is requesting a 20.9 decrease in
building square footage and a 33 1/3%
decrease in number of living quarters.
He said Mr. Rust could be giving up
one or two swimming pools, one
Manager's apartment, one game room and
bar, one full time maintenance man,
off-street parking, etc.
Let Mr. Rust have his apartments zoned
and deny Mr. Garrison everything other
than large single family dwellings.
He said good city planning, good
developers, and builders are an asset
to the city. He showed an alternate
plan for nice condominiums and single
family dwellings, all would be owners,
not renters.
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Foy E. Moss, 752 Spring Valley, Hurst,
came forward. He asked what the city
of Hurst has to say about this
project, what were their comments to
you.
Chairman Tucker said we have a
petition from the citizens of Hurst,
nothing from the city of Hurst.
Mr. Moss said this plat does not show
an easement for the widening of
Precinct Line Road. He said on the
Hurst side of Precinct Line, they
require an easement for the widening
of Precinct Line Road. Mr. Moss
stated he felt it would be a mistake
to approve this without this easement
for future widening of the road.
Mr. Wood stated the plat does show a
25 foot R.O.W. easement on the
official plat.
Tom Butt came forward. He said he
lives in Hurst about 100 yards from
this project. He said he moved from a
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very congested part of Fort Worth to
Hurst to get away from that congestion
and he does not want to have to move
again to get away from the congested
traffic and too many people which this
project will create.
Kathy Robinson, 6463 Chilton, came
forward. She said they have children
who play on Main Street because they
do not have the traffic congestion,
but with this project, the traffic
would double what they have now; plus
they do not have speeders going forty
miles an hour down the street, it is a
quiet area so lets keep the single
family zoning.
Chairman Tucker asked for a show of
hands of everyone present who are in
opposition to this request.
Chairman Tucker closed the Public
Hearing.
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Mr. Wood asked Mr. Garrison about the
drainage into the lake, had he
attempted to get the 40 foot easement.
Mr. Garrison said the city of North
Richland Hills has acquired that
easement and they require us to
reimburse them for it. It is owned by
the city of North Richland Hills.
Chairman Tucker asked Mr. Bronstad
about this, how far does it go.
Mr. Bronstad said it goes almost to
the lake.
Chairman Tucker asked where does it go
from there.
Mr. Bronstad said it doesn't, it just
overflows out of the lake.
Mr. Hannon asked if the drainage
easement to the lake was adequate.
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Mr. Bronstad said it was.
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PZ 83-15
DENIED
Ms. Nash made the motion to deny
PZ 83-15. This motion was seconded by
Mr. Bowen and the motion to deny
carried 5-0.
RECESS
The Chairman called a recess at 9:03.
BACK TO ORDER
Chairman Tucker called the meeting
back to order at 9:17 P. M.
Commission Member, Mark Wood, had to
leave so Alternate John Schwinger will
now take his place.
7.
PZ 83-16
WITHDRAWN
Request of James Rust to rezone Tracts
3B3 and 3B7, T.K. Martin Survey,
Abstract 1055, from their present
classification of Multi-Family to
proposed classifications of
Multi-Family-Specific Use-Quads and
2F-9-Duplexes. This property is
located on the west side of Precinct
Line Road at the intersection of
Precinct Line Road and Toni Drive
(City of Hurst).
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Mr. Rust withdrew his request.
8.
PZ 83-35
Request of Dan J. Anderson, D.V.M. to
rezone a portion of Tract 10F, Thomas
Peck Survey, Abstract 1210, from its
present classification of Agriculture
to a proposed classification of
Commercial. This property is located
on the west side of Davis Blvd.,
approximately 600 feet north of the
intersection of Shady Grove Road and
Davis Blvd.
Chairman Tucker opened the Public
Hearing and called for those wishing
to speak in favor of this request to
please come forward:
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Thomas Elting came forward to
represent Dr. Anderson, a well known
veterinarian. He said he has owned
and operated Haltom City Animal Clinic
for 38 years. Mr. Elting said the
property in question located on
Highway #1938 approximately 600 feet
Northeast of Shady Grove Road. He
said he felt this property would
conducive for the type of zoning they
are requesting.
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Mr. Elting said this proposed animal
clinic will be a large animal clinic
utilizing an existing building
structure on the property. He said
they also plan to build a first class
small animal clinic in conjunction
with that. Mr. Elting said all
animals in the clinic will be housed
under environmental conditions to meet
all the codes and requirements of the
State and local codes. He said there
will be no outside runs for the small
animals, none on that particular
property will be kept overnight.
Mr. Elting said they plan to landscape
the area and build the type of
building that would attract the proper
class clientele. He said approximately
$150,000 will be spent toward
improvements; the property now is open
land with a house and stock tank. Mr.
Elting said the "commercial zoning"
would be from the house South.
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Chairman Tucker called for those
wishing to speak in opposition to this
request to please come forward.
Arnold Pair, 8517 Davis Blvd., came
forward. He said he lives directly
West of this property. Mr. Pair said
he had been against this request, but
after speaking with Dr. Anderson who
assured him there would be no outside
keeping of animals, he would like to
clarify that he has no objection to
this request.
Chairman Tucker closed the Public
Hearing.
PZ 83-35
APPROVED
Mr. Schwinger made the motion to
approve PZ 83-35. This motion was
seconded by Ms. Nash and the motion
carried 5-0.
9.
PZ 83-36
Request of P & S Construction Company
to rezone Tract 13A, Stephen
Richardson Survey, Abstract 1266, and
a portion of Lot 4 and Lots 5 thru 7,
Block 1, Meadowview Estates, from
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their present classifications of
Agriculture, 1F-12 and 1-F-9 to
proposed classifications of 1F-8-1600
and 1F-8-180Q-One Family Dwellings.
This property is located on the north
side of Rumfield Road, extends
approximately 1,090 feet north, and is
approximately 666 feet East of Davis
Boulevard.
Chairman Tucker opened the Public
Hearing and called for those wishing
to speak in favor of this request to
please come forward.
John Parish, P & S Construction Co.,
came forward. He stated they have
developed Meadowview Estates, Phases 1
& 2, which are next door to this
property and are currently starting
Phase 3.
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Mr. Parish said the property in
question is a 5-acre tract with an old
house on it, old garage with trash
behind it which made it impossible to
build and sell the lots on Northfield
Drive.
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Mr. Parish said they felt they could
extend Smith Drive and Ellis Drive
easily and take in 12 Lots there, and
in order to develop the next 6 Lots
they needed to cut a new street and
replat those on Northfield. He said
he realizes the neighbors across the
street from Northfield will be
disappointed if this is approved, the
street would dead end into Mr. Larry
McWilliams house, who is a pitcher
with the Pittsburg Pirates. Mr.
Parish said he had tried to get word
from him. He said he talked to him
once and then mailed him a copy of the
plat, but he has not heard from him.
Mr. Parish said he found out Mr.
McWilliams has called some of the
neighbors who asked him to speak
against this request. He said they
will get rid of an eye sore and will
give ourselves another 3 Lot depth
between us and this Northeast Business
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Park which will generally help the
neighborhood. Mr. Parish said they
had some conferences with the
neighbors and have agreed to make some
changes; on the 3 lots facing Rumfield
Road, Lots 17, 18, and 19, Block 1.
We will make a minimum of 2000 square
foot homes (we will deed restrict
them). He said they will also sign a
contract with Mr. Kurtz that when this
land is sold, it will be deed
restricted to 2000 square foot homes.
Mr. Parish said he knew there was a
complaint from Mr. Elliott, owner of
the Northeast Business Park because of
the drainage easement through there
and the extension of Ellis Drive. He
said they have agreed to cul de sac
Ellis Drive and feel this plan will
improve the area. Mr. Parish also
stated they will remove the old house
and the garage.
.
Richard Kurtz came forward.
he owns the property to the
the lots on Rumfield Road.
asked if there wasn't a 10
easement running along the
the original plat, running
South along Rumfield.
He said
West of
Mr. Kurtz
ft.
property on
North and
Doug Long stated there was a 10 ft.
easement on our side.
Mr. Kurtz stated he has no objection
to this as long as there is a
contractual agreement to 2000 square
foot homes on the 3 acres.
Chairman Tucker called for those
wishing to speak in opposition to this
request to please come forward.
There being no one wishing to speak,
the Chairman closed the Public
Hearing.
PZ 83-36
APPROVED
Mr. Bowen made the motion to approve
PZ 83-36. This motion was seconded by
Mr. Hannon and the motion carried 5-0.
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10. PS 83-46
Request of P & S Construction Company
for preliminary plat of Meadowview
Estates, Phase 4.
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Doug Long, Consulting Engineer, came
forward. He stated they had received
the City Engineer's letter and have
addressed each comment in a letter.
He said he had also received a copy of
a letter from Elliott and Hughes,
dated May 25th, regarding their
property. Mr. Long said Elliott and
Hughes had an objection to our not
aligning our drainage channel. He
said Elliott and Hughes shows a
preliminary plat showing the whole
tract we did back in 1973. Mr. Long
said in December, 1973, the City
Council approved the final plat of
that tract which showed it came out
straight to the property line, not
with a bend it it. He said what
Elliott and Hughes are saying is they
wish to honor the existing drainage
that is there, not realign it.
Mr. Long said in order to accommodate
their plan, we would agree to cuI de
sac Ellis Drive, but we felt by
stubbing out Ellis Drive, it could, at
a future date, be extended to Davis
Blvd. Mr. Long said they would need
some direction as to how they would
want them to cuI de sac Ellis Drive.
He said it could be done two different
ways, either a temporary cul de sac or
a permanent one.
Mr. Long said in regard to drainage,
they have the three straight stubs to
the West, two proposed inlets on each
street to pick up all our water to our
property line and possibly some from
the West. He said they would not be
creating a drainage problem, they
would be helping to solve one.
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Mr. Long stated they also show Chuck
Drive to stub out at Mr. Kurtz's
property so in the future, if he
wishes to develop his property he
could extend it. He said they feel if
they put in cuI de sacs, they kill the
development of adjoining property.
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Mr. Hannon said Mr. Bronstad told them
there is a drainage channel which this
subdivision needs to drain in which
flows to the East and is not improved.
Mr. Long stated they are taking bids
on that now. He said that will be
Phase 3 of Meadowview Estates.
Mr. Hannon stated the city staff feels
we should stipulate the channel be
lined before building permits are
allowed to be issued on Phase 4.
Mr. Long said they plan to do the
channel.
Chairman Tucker asked Mr. Bronstad
about whether to cuI de sac the
streets and if so, what kind.
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Mr. Hannon said he felt they should
have a 50 foot R.O.W. to the property
line and also put in the cuI de sac
bubble so it will have essentially a
circle with a 50 foot street.
Mr. Long said they could slide the
street dedication over to where you
would have the 50 foot R.O.W.
There was discussion as to how the cuI
de sac should be built.
PS 83-46
APPROVED
Mr. Hannon made the motion to approve
PS 83-46 subject to the Engineer's
comments, subject to providing a cuI
de sac on Ellis Drive which provides a
50 foot R.O.W. to the Westerly
property line, and further subject to
the stipulation that building permits
not be issued in this section for
Meadowview Estates until the concrete
lined drainage ditch is constructed
and accepted by the city. This motion
was seconded by Ms. Nash and the
motion carried 5-0.
11. PZ 83-37
Request of Dominion Properties Inc. to
rezone Tracts 7E, 7F, T. K. Martin
Survey, Abstract 1055, from their
present classification of Agriculture
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to a proposed classification of
1F-8-1400-0ne Family Dwellings. This
property is located on the North side
of Martin Road, bounded on the West
and North by GlenAnn Addition, and is
approximately 800 feet West of Crane
Road.
Chairman Tucker opened the Public
Hearing and called for those wishing
to speak in favor of this to speak in
favor of this request to please come
forward.
Gordon Swift, Consulting Engineer,
came forward to represent Weldon Ward
and Dominion Properties. He said they
are requesting this zoning for the
extension of GlenAnn Addition and have
the preliminary plat as the next item
on the agenda. Mr. Swift stated they
feel this property should be for
residential usage.
.
The chairman called for others wishing
to speak in favor of this request to
please come forward. There being
none, the Chairman called for those
wishing to speak in opposition to this
request to please come forward.
Bonnie Washburn, 6451 Chilton, came
forward. She asked if they plan to
build 1400 square feet.
Chairman Tucker stated they can build
larger, but the minimum would be 1400
square feet.
Ms. Washburn said her home which abuts
this property is 2130 square feet and
the others are 1800 square feet or
larger. She said Martin Road is a
very bad street; how is it going to
handle the traffic; and Main Street
can not handle anymore either.
.
Ms. Washburn said she is an employee
of the city of Hurst and works real
close with the engineering department.
She said she believes North Richland
Hills and the city of Hurst did a
traffic study on Precinct Line Rd.
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and you should know the results of the
study of how bad Precinct Line Road
needs to be developed and also how
Martin Road needs to be developed .
She asked how would Martin Road handle
this added development.
Chairmen Tucker said this Commission
has to make the decidion of what is
the best use for the land. He said
streets out in the country will not be
improved without development and
growth.
Ms. Washburn said she is not opposed
to single family dwellings, but she is
opposed to any houses smaller than
1600 to 1700 square feet, to keep her
property and those around her from
depreciating since their's are much
larger.
.
Chairman Tucker asked Ms. Washburn if
he house was 2130 including the
garage.
Ms. Washburn said it was 2130 square
feet of heated area.
Chairman Tucker asked Mr. Bronstad
about the zoning in that area.
Mr. Bronstad said the homes from
Amundson East to the creek was to be
1600 square feet and from the creek
East to Crane Road was to be 1500
square feet.
Chairman Tucker said the houses which
back up to this property is zoned for
a minimum of 1500 to 1600 square feet.
Mr. Bronstad said that was correct.
James Robinson, 6463 Chilton, came
forward. He asked about the lot size,
they look very small and it would
restrict the developer to not be able
to build a very large house.
.
Chairman Tucker stated building homes
on large lots are things of the past
whether we like it or not. He said it
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it benefits the developer to build
large houses on smaller lots.
Gerald Stewart came forward. He asked
what size homes does the builder plan
to build.
Chairman Tucker said they have not
stated what size homes they plan to
build, he felt it would be up to the
market as to what size he builds.
Charles McNay came forward. He said
his property backs up to this property
and he was wondering if there would be
any protection from drainage if this
project is approved, for the homes
which are already there.
Chairman Tucker stated they would have
protection. He said that is taken
care of in the platting process; it
will be carefully studied by the City
Engineer and the City Staff.
.
Paul Parker, 6459 Chilton, came
forward. He said he lives next door
to this property and he had been
against this request, but after
talking with Gordon Swift, he is in
favor of this request except for one
thing, opening up Chilton to Martin.
He said the whole GlenAnn Addition
will be dumped right down Chilton.
Mr. Parker said his main concern was
the traffic pattern.
Chairman Tucker asked the owner of the
property if he would object to
changing the zoning request to 1500
square foot minimum to conform to the
present zoning of Glenann Addition.
Mr. Tad Adcock said that would be no
problem.
The Chairman closed the Public
Hearing.
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Mr. Hannon said he would like to
state, for the record, that this
Commission has considered previous
case for zoning in this area, along
the flight pattern of Mangham Airport
and it was the decision of this
Commission to deny residential zoning
within the flight path of the airport,
but it was overruled by the City
Council. He said he still felt the
Commission should take this location
into consideration as being a hazard
to the people in this area.
Ms. Nash asked how far it was from the
airport.
Mr. Swift said he believed it was in
excess of 2,000 feet.
Ms. Nash asked if this property was in
the flight path.
.
Mr. Swift said it was off the runway.
Mr. Bowen stated the City Engineer
stated in his letter regarding the
platting of this property that it lies
2,000 feet north of the north-south
runway.
Mr. Hannon also stated the ground
slopes down in that direction, making
the planes come rather close to the
houses.
Mr. Swift stated he talked with the
City Attorney, Rex McEntire, before he
accepted this case. He said it was
only after Mr. McEntire informed him
that the City had no right to deny the
use of this property, that he accepted
this case.
PZ83-37
APPROVED
Mr. Hannon made the motion to approve
PZ 83-27 with the stipulation being
1F-8-1500. This motion was seconded
by Mr. Bowen and the motion carried
5-0.
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12. PS 83-47
Request of Dominion Propertied, Inc.
for preliminary plat of Lots 20-59,
Block 8 & Block 14, GlenAnn Addition.
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Mr. Swift came forward. He stated
they had received the City Engineer's
letter and items 1 and 2 have already
been discussed in the zoning case and
he will state again to let the legal
counsel decide the legal aspect of the
concern of it when and where the clear
zone would apply to this property.
Mr. Swift said item 3, the City
Engineer has asked that a 6 inch
sanitary sewer be extended to the top
of the slope; he said they question
the use of that. Mr. Swift said after
discussing this with the City Staff,
they will agree to extend this if it
serves any purpose, but if we can find
no reason to do so, we do not want to
do this. Mr. Swift said he and Mr.
Bronstad, at this point, do not feel
it necessary. He said in item #4, we
will pay the pro rata and item #5, if
the street is to be paved, we will
make provisions for that. Mr. Swift
said his client had no intention to
extend Chilton Dr. but that plan was
made when GlenAnn Addition was
originally planned. He said they will
do whatever this Board and the City
Staff thinks best, but the residents
have expressed no desire for Chilton
Drive to be opened. Mr. Swift said
someone mentioned the opening of Wood
Court; what are your feelings about
this.
Mr. Hannon said he would like to know
the reason for the 600 foot
cul-de-sac.
Mr. Swift said by opening it up to
Martin would cause a traffic problem
and he would suggest not opening the
Court. He said it is not the best
situation, but it is the best of two
evils.
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Mr. Hannon asked Mr. Bronstad his
feelings about extending the sewer.
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Mr. Bronstad said he just needed to
extend it to his last lot and put in a
manhole.
Mr. Swift said they would show the
manhole on the plans.
PS 83-47
APPROVED
Mr. Hannon made the motion to approve
PS 83-47 subject to the Engineer's
comments with the exception of item
#2, and 3 and further subject to a
manhole being constructed at the end
of the 6" sanitary sewer in Chilton
Drive. This motion was seconded by
Mr. Schwinger and the motion carried
5-0.
13. PZ 83-38
Request of G. Terry Sisk to rezone Lot
14, Block 34, Richland Terrace
Addition, from its present classifica-
tion of 1F-9-0ne Family Dwelling to a
proposed classification of Neighbor-
hood Retail.
.
This property is located at the north-
east corner of Cummings Drive and
Northeast Loop 820.
Terry Sisk came forward. He said he
proposed to construct a 2,000 sq. ft.
office building. He said there was
some opposition to the "Neighborhood
Retail" requested, but there will be
no retail, no shopping center, it will
be his and his partner's office. Mr.
Sisk stated there would be no more
than 8 or 9 cars there at anyone
time. He said they had 6 employees.
Mr. Sisk said the building would be of
brick veneer construction. He said
there was one tree there and they
planned to add other trees and shrubs
and landscape it to make a very nice
place out of it. Mr. Sisk said it
will face Northeast Loop 820 and they
would not have to go thru any
neighborhood to get to it.
.
Mr. Sisk said he felt the highest and
best use of this property would be for
an office building. He showed
pictures of a building which is
similar to the one he plans to build.
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The Chairman opened the Public Hearing
and called for those wishing to speak
in favor of this request to please
come forward.
There being no one, the Chairman
called for those wishing to speak in
opposition to this request to please
come forward.
Mary Jo Shaunty, 5005 Cummings Drive
came forward. She stated these were
26 homes in this area, 9 of which
received letters being within 200
feet. Ms. Shaunty said there had been
a petition submitted in opposition to
this request by 24 of the property
owners. Ms. Shaunty said she felt
this would be a perfect example of
spot zoning, taking a lot out of a
single family sub-division and
changing the zoning to Neighborhood
Retail.
.
Ms. Shaunty stated the area across the
freeway was brought up before the
Commission several years ago for Local
Retail Zoning and was denied, but
after litigation in the court, they
were allowed to build two family
dwellings on it, but it was not suit-
able for Local Retail.
Ms. Shaunty said she realizes he wants
to only put an office building on it,
but if granted it could be something
else tomorrow.
Mr. Sisk stated he would agree to put
a Specific Use on it for an office.
Ms. Shirley Cordray, 4916 Cummings
Drive, came forward. She said she
lived within 200 feet of this
property. She said this is a very
stable area, most of the families have
been there 10 years or longer and she
did not feel they should take one
little spot and change it to benefit
one person.
.
Chairman Tucker stated there is a
legal petition submitted in opposition
to this request.
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Ms. Joyce Tucker, 4909 Cummings Drive,
came forward. She stated she owned
the property which joins the property
in question. Ms. Tucker said Mr. Sisk
visited her about a month ago and had
a lengthy discussion about his plans
for this property. She said Mr. Sisk
told her that if this would cause any
problem or friction, if the people did
not want it, he would not pursue it.
Ms. Tucker said the neighbors have
discussed it and they had rather not
have an office building there.
Mrs. David Freeman, 4901 Cummings
Drive, came forward. She stated she
lives across the street from this
property and they opposed this
request.
.
Mr. Charles Stewart, 4913 Cummings
Drive, came forward. Mr. Stewart
stated he had lived in this area for
about 22 years. He said this is a
very stable, well kept neighborhood,
and he was opposed to a commercial
building. Mr. Stewart said he would
not be opposed to a two family
dwelling there like the ones across the
freeway. He stated most commercial
buildings do not keep the same people
in them over the years.
Chairman Tucker closed the Public
Hearing.
PZ 83-38
DENIED
Ms. Nash made the motion to deny
PZ 83-38. This motion was seconded by
Mr. Bowen and the motion to deny
carried 5-0.
14. PZ 83-39
Request of Tierra Financial, Inc. to
rezone Tract 3A, William Cox Survey,
Abstract 321, from its present
classification of Agriculture to a
proposed classification of 2F-9-Two
Family Dwellings.
.
This property is located on the north
side of Turner Drive and is approxi-
mately 226 feet west of Davis Blvd.
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Mr. Delbert Stembridge, Consulting
Engineer, came forward to represent
Tierra Financial, Inc. Mr. Stembridge
stated they had previously requested
Multi-Family Zoning on this property
and were denied, but the adjacent
property owners, at that time,
indicated they would have no objection
to two family dwelling zoning.
The Chairman opened the Public Hearing
and called for those wishing to speak
in favor of this request to please
come forward.
There being no one, the Chairman
called for those wishing to speak in
opposition to this request to please
come forward.
.
Mr. J.G. Hailey, 8116 Turner Drive,
came forward. Mr. Hailey stated he
lived within 200 feet of this property
and would like to deny the statement
of Mr. Stembridge, under no
circumstance would the homeowners
agree to two family zoning on this
property.
Mr. Hailey stated the same problems
still exist as they did when the
Commission and City Council turned
down the multi-family zoning. He
stated Turner Drive is not a major
thoroughfare and never would be; it is
only wide enough for two cars and can
not handle more traffic. Mr. Hailey
said the only access to this property
would be on Cox Lane, which is only
wide enough for one car, since cars
park on both sides of the street.
Mr. Hailey stated this street is also
a playground for the children in the
neighborhood.
.
Mr. Hailey stated he understood the
water, sewer and drainage is a
platting matter, but they would have
problems with all of them. He said
when it rained Cox Lane became Cox
Canal, and more development would
cause more drainage problems.
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Mr. Hailey stated he did not see the
City ever widening the streets because
they would have to buy more right-of-
way.
Chairman Tucker said the main reason
the multi-family was denied was there
were a lot of units per acre, but his
Commission is facing a dilemma because
there is a law which stated that you
can not keep a man from using his
land.
Chairman Tucker asked Mr. Hailey what
he would acceptable for the land.
.
Mr. Hailey said right now until the
City cures the problems, he would
accept nothing. Mr. Hailey stated Cox
Lane could be extended within a
quarter of a mile of this property,
and that there were duplexes that can
not be rented or they have not been
rented for a year. Mr. Hailey stated
he felt there is better use of this
land than for duplexes.
Mr. Hailey stated that the schools
could not take anymore children.
Chairman Tucker said a lot of the
citizens use that but he had been in
contact with the school board and they
tell him to not worry about the
schools, to build houses and they
would build the schools.
Mr. Hailey stated they are overcrowded
now, there are 40 in his daughter's
class.
Mr. Hailey stated he would prefer
single family dwellings. He stated to
solve the drainage problem, if they
put curb and gutter on Turner Drive,
they would have to drop the crown of
that street 18 inches to carry the
load of the water.
.
Mr. John Larriviere, 6971 Cox Lane,
came forward. Mr. Larriviere stated
his property is below this property
and when they cam in requesting multi-
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family zoning, the question came up
about the drainage and they said they
would alleviate the drainage problem.
Mr. Larriviere stated with the added
development he would be flooded. Mr.
Larriviere stated there are four
places within a half mile that already
are zoned multi-family; at Smithfield
and Starnes, Davis at Newman, Watauga
and Smithfield Road, and Chapman and
Little Ranch Road. Mr. Larriviere
stated with all these, what next, how
much more multi-family?
Mr. Larriviere stated he thought the
reason the City Council turned the
previous request down was because of
the sewerage problem, the traffic, and
the flooding conditions; those condi-
tions are still there.
Chairman Tucker closed the Public
Hearing.
.
Mr. Hannon asked Mr. Bronstad about
the Water Master Plan. He said it
shows a 24 inch water line going
across the back of this property and
asked what was scheduled on this; what
is the priority?
Mr. Bronstad stated he was not sure of
priority, but they were waiting for
the City Council to give them the go
ahead.
PZ 83-39
DENIED
Mr. Schwinger made the motion to deny
PZ 83-39. This motion was seconded by
Ms. Nash and the motion to deny
carried 4-1, with Mr. Hannon voting
against denial.
15. PZ 83-40
Request of Frank Kimmell, Trustee to
rezone Tracts 12 & 12A, John Barlough
Survey, Abstract 130, and Tract 2,
William Mann Survey, Abstract 1010,
from their present classification of
Agriculture to a proposed classifica-
tion of 1F-9-1500, 1F-8-1400 and IF-8-
1200-0ne Family Dwellings.
.
This property is located on the south
side of Chapman Road and bounded on
the west by Richfield Park.
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Mr. Hannon stated that due to a
conflict of interest, he would like to
step down.
Mr. Frank Kimmell, Co-Owner of
Richland Land Company, came forward.
Mr. Kimmell stated that this request
was for approximately 67 acres on
Chapman Drive.
.
Mr. Kimmell stated that immediately
east of this tract the property was
undeveloped, but was zoned 2F-9; at
the southeast corner the property was
zoned commercial; the property to the
south was zoned industrial, but
undeveloped; and the acreage to the
southwest is North Park Estates, which
is zoned IF-7; the property to the
west is Richfield Park with Agricul-
tural zoning; the property to the west
of Richfield Park was developed and
zoned 1F-7; the other areas to the
west of this property is zoned 1F-12;
the properties to the north and
northeast are undeveloped and are
zoned Agricultural; and the northeast
corner is McComas Addition, which is
developed and is zoned 1F-9.
Mr. Kimmell stated their zoning request
covers three different levels, on
Chapman Road they are asking for IF-9
zoning with 1,500 square foot
minimums. Mr. Kimmell stated according
to the tax records, 92% of the
existing homes in McComas Addition are
under 1,600 square feet. Mr. Kimmell
stated they felt the 1F-9 zoning was a
good transitional zoning between the
development to the north and their
proposed development to the south.
.
Mr. Kimmell stated where their property
joins North Park Estates they are
requesting 1F-8-1400. Mr. Kimmell
stated they are requesting a higher
zoning than North Park and that the
tax rolls show 95% of the homes in
North Park are under 1,500 square
feet.
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Mr. Kimmell stated that they were
requesting 1F-8 zoning for the balance
of their tract, which is equal to or
better than all the other residential
zonings, as far to the west as Rufe
Snow Drive, as far south as Watauga
Drive and as far to the east as
Smithfield Road. Mr. Kimmell stated
they feel they are compatible with the
zoning in the area.
Mr. Kimmell stated that there had been
some discussion of a north-south
collector street in this general area.
He stated they are proposing to plat
Fox Hollow Lane as a 60 foot width
street which could be used as a
collector street if the City so
desired. Mr. Kimmell stated they
could make either Fox Hollow Lane or
Little Ranch Road as the collector
street on the final plat.
Mr. Kimmell stated that in North Park
Estates there was a Y-inlet into which
most of this 67 acre tract drains. Mr.
Kimmell stated their drainage and
storm sewer plans would divert that
run off to a series of sewers existing
out of these cul-de-sacs into the
creek that is in the park area. Mr.
Kimmell stated he had visited with the
City Staff and they see no problem
with this. He stated this should
alleviate the flooding in this area.
Mr. Kimmell stated they had only four
lots in their proposed development
that would continue to drain into that
Y-inlet.
Mr. Kimmell stated they felt the zoning
they were requesting was complementary
to the existing development in the
area and requested approval of this
request.
Chairman Tucker opened the Public
Hearing and called for those wishing
to speak in favor of this request to
please come forward.
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Mr. Owen Long came forward. Mr. Long
stated he owned the property to the
south of this property, which was
presently zoned industrial. Mr. Long
stated he planned to come in at a
later date and vacate the plat of Fox
Hollow Addition. He stated he had no
real concern with the proposed
development to the north of them.
Mr. Long stated he was doing the
engineering on this and it would be
submitted next month. Mr. Long stated
there would be a concrete lined
channel thru this property, and it
would be on the Planning and Zoning's
next agenda. Mr. Long stated they
planned to realien and restructure
that drainage ditch.
Mr. Long stated Fox Hollow Lane could
be a collector street, they have had a
box culvert at the railroad that had
been paid for eight or nine years, so
it would not be hard to make Fox
Hollow Lane a collector street.
Chairman Tucker called for those
wishing to speak in opposition to this
request to please come forward.
Mr. Ted Gay, 6440 Sudbury Way, came
forward. Mr. Gay stated he was not
against the development; however, the
traffic needs to be addressed. Mr.
Gay stated with the construction of
Rufe Snow, it makes the traffic more
congested and if they had a north
south route, they were going to have a
lot of traffic down Little Ranch which
will cause problems getting on Watauga
Road.
Mr. Gay stated he would like to
request this zoning be denied until a
traffic pattern was worked out and try
to get this Fox Hollow Lane tied down
more.
Mr. Tom Ferruggia, 6448 Sudbury Way,
came forward. Mr. Ferruggia stated he
had had flooding at his house for
several years. He stated he had
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called the City to see if they could
do anything about it; the City said
they did not own the land and could
not do anything about it. Mr.
Ferruggia stated he had had to open
his gate in his back yard and let out
3~ feet of water. Mr. Ferruggia
stated he was in agreement with the
development of this land, but he
requested that they insure that the
land will drain correctly. Mr.
Ferruggia stated his other concern was
in regard to square footage. He
stated his house was approximately
1,585 square feet and asked what the
proposed zoning would be next to him.
Chairman Tucker said it would be 1,400
square feet.
Mr. Ferruggia said he had his house up
for sale earlier this year, but took
it off the market. Mr. Ferruggia
stated he may try to sell it again and
would not want anything to hinder the
market value of his property. Mr.
Ferruggia stated he would request to
increase them a 100 feet or so.
Mr. Calvin McKutchin came forward. Mr.
McKutchin stated he lived on Sudbury
Way. Mr. McKutchin stated he wanted
to reiterate what the previous
gentlemen had said about the traffic
and the flooding problems. He stated
he would request they make sure that
Fox Hollow Lane is made a collector
street and also that the property
drains properly.
Mr. Dan Patterson, 6445 Sudbury Way,
came forward. Mr. Patterson asked
what was in the Master Plan in regard
to Little Ranch Road or Fox Hollow
Lane to alleviate the traffic
congestion.
Mr. Bronstad stated they have been
taling about Conett Blvd. for several
years, but don't know when the Council
will approve the work on Watauga Road,
they have not set a target date yet.
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Mr. Bronstad stated right now they are
working on Phase II of Rufe Snow
Drive.
Chairman Tucker said there is both an
east-west and a north-south
thoroughfare in the Master Plan, but
that is all the information he has to
give; it is up to the Council to put
them into the fiscal year's budget and
fund those plans.
Mr. Patterson said he felt they are
getting the cart ahead of the horse,
and that we need the streets now
before the development.
Chairman Tucker said it takes time to
build streets.
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Mr. Kimmell stated their plans now are
to develop in four phases. He stated
when Little Ranch Road is opened up to
Chapman Drive, it would give these
people in North Park another outlet.
Chairman Tucker asked what his
projection of time was.
Mr. Kimmell said about two years.
A man living at 7235 Sandhurst came
forward. He stated he was against
Little Ranch Road being made a
thoroughfare. He stated unless you
relieve the traffic problem on Watauga
Road and Rufe Snow, you are still
going to have a problem. He stated
his only concern about this develop-
ment was the traffic getting in and
out of the area.
Mr. Roy Hodo, 6724 Mabell, came
forward. Mr. Hodo asked if the green
area shown was for 1,500 square foot
homes.
Mr. Kimmell stated it was.
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Mr. Hodo asked where the drive
approaches would be.
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Mr. Kimmell stated they would be off
Chapman Road.
Mr. Hodo said Chapman Road is
unbearable at its best and now this
plan is to have cars backing out onto
Chapman Road. He stated the street is
full of chug holes; when it rains
Chapman Road floods, and nothing has
been addressed about this problem.
Mr. Hodo said when you add this many
houses and have not provided any exits
to get out of the area you will just
be congesting the area more. Mr. Hodo
stated he understands the streets are
the City Council's problem, but the
City Council is not meeting the needs
of providing entrances and exits of
the area.
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Chairman Tucker said he wanted to
explain that in a zoning request, we
consider the best use of the land and
when we get to the next request, the
platting, that is when the roads, the
drainage, and how the cars drive in
and out will be discussed. He stated
we can give them the zoning and deny
the plat if the roads are not laid out
properly or the drainage is not
sufficient.
Mr. Hodo stated he would wait for the
platting request. Mr. Hodo asked if
this area was in the flood plane.
Chairman Tucker said it was not.
Chairman Tucker closed the Public
Hearing.
Mr. Bowen stated he was concerned
about square footage. Mr. Bowen
stated he understood the need for
smaller lots, but he was concerned
about the number of 1,200 square foot
homes. Mr. Bowen asked if they would
be willing to change their ratio some.
He stated he would be able to think
more favorable on this if it was more
proportional.
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Mr. Kimmell stated he had no objection
to working out a compromise. He
stated he would prefer the 1,200
square feet, but he would be willing
to change his proposed 1,200 to 1,300
square feet for the entire addition.
PZ 83-40
APPROVED
Mr. Bowen made the motion to approve
PZ 83-40 with the stipulation that a
change be made in the request from
1F-8-1200 to IF-8-1300. This motion
was seconded by Ms. Nash and the
motion carried 4-0.
RECESS
The Chairman called a recess at 11:20
P.M.
BACK TO ORDER
The Chairman called the meeting back
to order at 11:30 P.M. with the same
members present.
16. PS 83-44
Request of Frank Kimmell, Trustee, for
preliminary plat of Chapman Ridge
Addition.
Mr. Kimmell came forward. Mr. Kimmell
stated he had received the City
Engineer's requests and had responded
to these items. Mr. Kimmell said
Items 1 thru 4 had been agreed to and
have been added to the drawing;
regarding item #5, he met with the
owner of the property to the east,
Burk Collins, the proposed Central
Park Addition, to confirm that he had
no objection to the concentrated storm
water discharge point as shown on the
drainage layout. He stated they felt
they could reach a satisfactory
conclusion. Mr. Kimmell stated one
alternative, if all else failed, was
to take the drainage out of the
easterly cul-de-sacs down the east
side of the property into the drainage
easement. He stated Mr. Hannon
addressed that more clearly in his
letter to you dated May 25th.
Mr. Kimmell said on item #6, they had
made that change; #7 regarding the
grading on the proposed Priddy Lane,
that he said it could possibly be too
flat, but when we do the final
engineering, if it is too flat, we
will meet the City's criteria.
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Mr. Kimmell stated that in item #8,
the City Engineer requested the
proposed six inch water line in Fox
Hollow be increased to an eight inch.
He stated the City Master Plan for
water shows one proposed eight inch
line in the area, it doesn't matter to
us whether it is in Little Ranch Road
or Fox Hollow Lane.
Mr. Kimmell said items #9 and #10
regarding pro rata, we will pay, and
item #11 regarding improvement along
Chapman Road, we do intend to
construct the curb and gutter and do
the street widening as part of the
first phase.
Mr. Kimmell stated that where Fox
Hollow Lane intersects with Chapman
Road, they had drawn it to intersect
with Chapman Road at the crest of the
hill rather than being further to the
east or further to the west for a
safer intersection and also by having
it there, it would not conflict with
the existing residential area.
Chairman Tucker said although our
subdivision ordinance allows it, he
does not like a subdivision that has
lots that back out to a main road. It
is allowed, but we should avoid it if
possible because it does clog up the
road.
Chairman Tucker asked if this drainage
they plan to keep the water out of the
Y-inlet, will take care of the
problem.
Mr. Hannon came forward. He showed
how and where the drainage would go.
PS 83-44
APPROVED
Ms. Nash made the motion to approve
PS 83-44 subject to the Engineer's
comments. This motion was seconded by
Mr. Schwinger and the motion carried
4-0.
Mark Hannon returned to the table.
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17. PZ 83-41
Request of Folsom Investment, Inc. to
rezone 1.44 acres out of Lot l,
Block 1, Walkers Branch Addition from
their present classification of Multi-
Family to a proposed classification of
Local Retail.
This property is located approximately
150 feet north-west of Highway 26 on
Emerald Hills Way.
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Mr. Bobby McMillan, with Folsom Inc.,
Inc., came forward. Mr. McMillan
stated that two years ago when they
presented the final plat of this
property, there was discussion by the
Commission as to the zoning lines and
how they occurred. Mr. McMillan
stated he had often wondered that
also. He presented a plat showing the
two zonings and their boundary lines.
Mr. McMillan stated they wished to
change the zoning on 1.44 acres of
land from Multi-Family to Local Retail
to straighten up the lines and also to
give them a more usable size tract.
The Chairman opened the Public Hearing
and called for those wishing to speak
in favor of this request to please
come forward.
There being no one, the Chairman
called for those wishing to speak in
opposition to this request to please
come forward.
There being no one wishing to speak
the Chairman closed the Public
Hearing.
PZ 83-41
APPROVED
Mr. Hannon made the motion to approve
PZ 83-41. This motion was seconded by
Mr. Bowen and the motion carried 5-0.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 11:45 P.M.
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