HomeMy WebLinkAboutPZ 1982-10-21 Minutes
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CALL TO ORDER
ROLL CALL
MINUTES OF THE SPECIAL MEETING OF THE
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION OF THE
CITY OF NORTH RICHLAND HILLS, TEXAS
OCTOBER 21, 1982 - 7:30 P.M.
CONSIDERATION OF RESCHEDULING
THE NOVEMBER 25TH AND DECEMBER
23RD MEETING DATES
1.
PS 82-38
2.
PS 82-39
The meeting was called to order by the
Chairman, George Tucker, at 7:30 p.m.
PRESENT:
CHAIRMAN
SECRETARY
MEMBERS
George Tucker
Marjorie Nash
Don Bowen
Mark Hannon
Mark Wood
John Schwinger
Gene Riddle
Wanda Calvert
ALT. MEMBER
DIRECTOR OF PW/U
P&Z COORDINATOR
The Chairman stated the dates for the Plan-
ning and Zoning meetings for November and
December will be changed to November 18 and
December 21 due to the Thanksgiving and
Christmas holidays.
Request of Stony brooke, Inc. for final plat
of Lots 7-12 and Tract A-R, Block 13, Stony-
brooke Addition.
Mr. Hannon moved, seconded by Mr. Bowen, to
move PS 82-38 to the end of the agenda. This
motion carried 5-0.
Request of YMCA for final plat of Lot 2, Block
11, Emerald Hills Addition.
Dick Perkins, Teague, NaIl and Perkins, carne
forward to represent the YMCA.
Mr. Perkins said they had received the City
Engineer's letter and it seemed he had not
received information regarding the proposed
water improvements there which will be looping
in the sys~em there on Lynda Street and adding
an additional fire hydrant.
Mr. Perkins said the other Engineer's comment
was the dedication and notary seal on the plat
which the surveyor has done or will do prior
to going to Council.
Mr. Perkins said they are in full agreement
with all the comments.
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October 21, 1982
PS 82-39
APPROVED
Mr. Wood made a motion to approve PS 82-39
subject to the Engineer's comments. This
motion was seconded by Ms. Nash and the
motion carried 5-0.
3.
PS 82-40
Request of TLB-GSC Enterprises, Inc. for
replat of Lots 2R, 3, 4, 5, and 6, Block B,
College Hills Addition.
Dick Perkins came forward to represent TLB-
GSC in their request.
Mr. Perkins said they had received the City
Engineer's letter and are in full agreement
with the first three comments. He said they
would like to have the fourth comment waived
regarding requiring a 25 foot building setback
on Lot 2R fronting on Holiday Lane. Mr. Teague
said Mr. Bonham wants to build on the small
lots fronting on Bogart street and later re-
plat Lot 2R with a public street and all lots
would side on Holiday Lane, this way they
would only need the 15 foot building line.
Mr. Perkins said they would request the Com-
mission grant approval with the 15 foot build-
ing line on Holiday Lane.
Mr. Hannon said if he plans to replat at a
future date, why can't he show the 25 foot
building line at this time.
Mr. Perkins said the City Engineer is wanting
the building lines of Lots 2R and 3 to be
compatible so you would not have a step in
the building line, but that would restrict
the building on Lot 3. He said Mr. Bonham
could not build the building on Lot 3 that
he wants to with the 25 foot building line.
Mr. Perkins said if they wanted to restrict
Lot 2R without effecting Lot 3, that would
be agreeable. He said Mr. Bonham has a
pretty nice size duplex he wants to put on
that lot and the 25 foot building line would
not permit this 2,200 square foot duplex.
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October 2l, 1982
Mr. Hannon said there was some problems here,
he doesn't believe there was a Lot 1 and Lot 2,
Block B and you cannot replat without including
the adjacent property here, the rest of Block
B. He asked if there was an error here.
Mr. Perkins said they had some problems with
this. He said they could not find one, but
the Tax Office carried it this way.
Mr. Hannon asked if there was a plat recorded
at the Court House as Lot l, Block B.
Mr. Perkins said they could not find one.
Mr. Hannon said our record just shows a Block
B. He said what they must do is resubdivide
all of Block B and he feels there is also
problems in that here is contiguous ownership
of property to the west of Holiday Lane which
has not been preliminary platted and also we
do not have construction plans for Holiday
Lane.
Mr. Perkins said in regards to replatting all
of Block B, he understands the ordinance states
that, but most of Block B is owned by another
party and am not sure if the college would be
interested in doing this, it would be putting
an unnecessary burden on Mr. Bonham.
Mr. Perkins said regarding the construction
of Holiday Lane, it has been dedicated in the
past, and Mr. Bonham plans to build that portion
of Holiday Lane when he develops Lot 2R. He
said Mr. Bonham plans to develop Lots 3, 4, 5
and 6 now and later when he replats Lot 2R he
will construct Holiday Lane up to the end
of his property.
Mr. Perkins said in regards to the land west
of Holiday Lane being contiguous, it was their
opinion in researching the subdivision ordi-
nance that the wording of this ordinance didn't
apply since this is two different tracts of
land, separated by Holiday Lane, that did not
constitute it being contiguous land and do not
feel they should have to preliminary plat it
now. Mr. Hannon said he would if he was on
this side of the table.
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Mr. Perkins said Mr. Bonham spent a lot of time
and money working with the Corp of Engineers,
the railroad and some other people trying to
take care of that drainage problem and trying
to releave the situation that exists on Bogart
and Deaver right now. He said since this
property is not impacted by the drainage condi-
tion across the street, he doesn't feel, with
the wording of the ordinance, that it is neces-
sary to cause him to show a preliminary plat on
this entire tract of land when he is still try-
ing to work out the details of this drainage
with the Corp of Engineers, the railroad, and
other parties involved in trying to help these
people who live in this area who have some
flooding problems. Mr. Perkins said Mr. Bonham
is not a fly-by-night developer, he has developed
some land to the south of this area and he is
vitally interested in enhancing the drainage
condition of this area in North Richland Hills.
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Mr. Perkins said all Mr. Bonham is wanting to
do at this time is put duplexes on four lots.
Mr. Hannon said the Commission has a memo from
the Director of Public Works stating he and the
City Engineer concur that it is contiguous
property and should be preliminary platted in
accordance with our subdivision ordinance.
Mr. Perkins said if you would look at the word
"contiguous," it is not contiguous.
The Chairman called for a motion.
PS 82-40
DENIED
Mr. Tucker made the motion to approve PS 82-40
subject to the Engineer's comments.
Mr. Bowen said since the Public Works Director
believes the tract to the west should be
platted, also could we make that a part of
the motion.
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Mr. Tucker said the matter of where it is con-
tiguous or not, is a matter of opinion and is
up to the Commission to decide.
The motion was seconded by Mr. Wood and the
motion failed 2-3 with Hannon, Nash and Bowen
voting against approval.
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October 2l, 1982
The Chairman stated the plat is denied.
Mr. Perkins asked what they could do now, we
need some guidance as to what would be accept-
able when we come back in.
Mr. Tucker said he felt we could not require
the other owners to replat, but need the other's
signatures.
I~. Tucker said it would also help if you would
show what you plan to do with Lot 2R, the 15
foot building line would probably be granted.
Mr. Perkins asked what avenue they had in appeal-
ing to the City Council. He said he feels they
have a good argument regarding the "contiguous
property. "
Mr. Riddle said the City Council can vary from
the subdivision ordinance so you need to contact
the City Secretary regarding this.
Mr. Perkins asked if they would have to have a
three-fourths majority of the Council to approve
it as you do for a zoning appeal.
Mr. Tucker said you did not.
Theron Bonham, President of TLB-GSC Enterprises,
came forward. He said to give the Commission a
little background, the reason they chose this
avenue on the plat, he bought this piece of land
several years ago, and as everyone knows, it
was a bad piece of land, no one wanted to fool
with and after considerable expense, they have
installed the channel adjoining the residential
area, consisting of 51 lots. He said the 12
acres, which he received MF zoning on, he plans
to put four-plexes and six-plexes to sell them
off in a town home style.
Mr. Bonham said he is trying to upgrade the
area. He said he plans to build duplexes on
these four front lots and replat the lots when
he gets the slabs poured so they can be sold
individually.
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October 21, 1982
Mr. Bonham said there had been a preliminary
study made on the back side of the 12 acres
running along the railroad tract, which he
has taken to the Corp of Engineers and they
have checked the channel hydraulics on it,
and there can be a channel put from Smithfield-
Watauga Road down to the channel where it comes
underneath the railroad where his property
begins. Mr. Bonham said when that channel
is installed, that would control the water
coming across Fort Worth Christian and running
into those houses.
Mr. Bonham said he plans to develop the four
lots and then corne back in with a planned
development for the rest of his property. He
said it is a very difficult piece of land due
to the lay of the land.
Mr. Bonham said there was no record of a plat
on this property at the City so he went to the
Court House and found a plat and got a copy
and brought it back to the City. He said the
proposed Holiday Lane was called College Circle.
Mr. Bonham said the plat showed the land divided
into blocks A and B, so it is not a tract of
land, it is a recorded plat of two blocks, the
property to the west of Holiday Lane is still
in abstract form, in a tract of land.
4.
PS 82-41
Request of Lexus Murphy Associates for pre-
liminary plat of Lots land 2, Block 3,
Diamond Loch Apartments Addition, Unit II.
David Washington, Washington/Wallace Engineers,
came forward to represent Lexus Murphy in his
request. He said they had received the
Engineer's comments and agree to them.
Mr. Hannon asked about the comment Mr. Albin
made regarding the property which lies in
Haltom City.
Mr. Washington said they will do whatever is
necessary.
Mr. Hannon asked if they would be diverting
some drainage onto Diamond Oaks Country Club.
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Mr. Washington said there would be no diversion.
Mr. Hannon said the topo is incorrect.
Mr. Washington said he would assure them there
would be no diversion of water and he would
show it on the final platting.
Mr. Tucker asked Mr. Riddle about Item #7 of
the Engineer's letter. He said they could not
act on the land which is not in our City.
Mr. Riddle said he had not talked to Haltom
City. He said the approval of the plat would
have to stop at our line.
Mr. Washington said there would be no buildings
on that property, only parking.
Mr. Riddle said they might could get written
approval from Haltom City.
Don Murphy came forward. He said Diamond Loch
Apartments plat was platted this way.
PS 82-4l
APPROVED
Mr. Hannon made a motion to approve PS 82-41
subject to the Engineer's comments and subject
to the developer working out an agreement with
Haltom City. This motion was seconded by
Ms. Nash and the motion carried 5-0.
Mr. Murphy asked if a letter from the City
Manager of Haltom City would be sufficient.
The Chairman said it would be.
5.
PS 82-42
Request of Epoch Development Corporation for
preliminary plat of University Plaza Addition,
Fourth Filing.
Bob Bentel with Epoch Development Corporation
came forward. He said this development would
be the third phase of Haystack.
Mr. Bentel said he had received the comments
from the City Engineer and will comply with
all six items.
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October 21, 1982
PS 82-42
APPROVED
Ms. Nash made a motion to approve PS 82-42
subject to the Engineer's comments. This
motion was seconded by Mr. Wood and the
motion carried 5-0.
6.
PS 82-44
Request of Cross Roads Development Co. for
final plat of Lots 1-5, Block 10, Snow
Heights North Addition.
John Cook with Cross Roads Development Co.
came forward. He said they had received the
City Engineer's comments and take no exception
to any of them.
PS 82-44
APPROVED
Mr. Hannon made a motion to approve PS 82-44
subject to the Engineer's comments and subject
to resizing the storm drain on the west side
of Reynolds Road at the high school. This
motion was seconded by Ms. Nash and the motion
carried 5-0.
7.
PS 82-45
Request of Dyna-Co Development Company for
final plat of Lot 2, Block 6, Snow Heights
North Addition.
John Cook came forward to represent Dyna-Co.
He said they have received the City Engineer's
comments and take no exception to them.
PS 82-45
APPROVED
Mr. Hannon made a motion to approve PS 82-45
subject to the Engineer's comments. This
motion was seconded by Mr. Wood and the motion
carried 5-0.
8.
PS 82-51
Request of BWBM Partnership for preliminary
plat of Castle Winds Addition.
Doug Long, Consulting Engineer, came forward
to represent Mr. Daryl Barrett and BWBM Partner-
ship, Inc.
Mr. Long said they had received the City
Engineer's letter and take no exception, they
can comply with all the comments.
Mr. Tucker asked Mr. Barrett if he was the
owner of the property.
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October 2l, 1982
Mr. Daryl Barrett came forward. He said it
is under contract, they have signed a purchase
agreement.
Mr. Tucker said the City's records show the
property adjacent to this property is all owned
by the same person.
Mr. Barrett said there are several owners; that
it took him about six months to get all the
signatures. He said not all the same owners
own the adjacent land.
Mr. Tucker said our ordinance states the defi-
nition of a lot says it must front a public
street and there are lots fronting on private
streets.
Mr. Long said he had discussed this with
Mr. Riddle. He said in order to get around
the 20 percent rear yard requirement in Local
Retail zoning for multi-family development,
they divided the property into separate lots
fronting on a private street.
Mr. Tucker said they could sell these lots off
individually.
Mr. Long said it would be similar to condos.
He said what they are trying to do is get
around having that 20 percent of the lot for
rear yard.
Mr. Tucker said they could ask for a variance.
Mr. Barrett said in discussion with the City
staff, this was the quickest way. He said their
intention is not for condos.
Mr. Tucker said there is concern that the land
to the north might be landlocked.
Mr. Long said he understands these tracts were
acquired to extend their backyards; they were
acquired by metes and bounds. He said this
land had been previously given to the City
for a park, but was later sold for a small
amount to these property owners.
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Mr. Long said if you try to aline a street
with Mike street, there would be some land
lost and they could not have the head-in park-
ing they had planned on the private drive.
Mr. Tucker asked how many units they plan to
have.
Mr. Barrett said they plan to have l52 units.
Mr. Tucker said there would be problems with
traffic onto Rufe Snow. He said it would be
better if they could make Mike street go through
and also make a street to Glenview.
Mr. Tucker asked Mr. Barrett if he had any
objection to meeting with the property owners
and working out a solution to this problem.
Mr. Barrett said he met with some of the owners
and discussed this. He said none of these
property owners have responded.
Mr. Tucker said the solution would be to go
Planned Development.
Mr. Long said that would take too long, it
would take a public hearing. He said the
zoning change could help them. Mr. Long said
these property owner's lots are 150 feet deep,
and if they give 50 feet off for a street, it
would not meet the minimum depth of a lot re-
quirement. Mr. Long said his client could
possibly give less than the 25 feet to help
them out. He said his client does not feel
he should have to give up his expensive land
just to benefit the neighbors.
Mr. Wood said he wouldn't be giving up land, he
is going to have a street there anyway.
Mr. Barrett said he would loose his parking
because he plans to have head-in parking on
his drive. He said the City would not allow
this on a public street.
Sharon Spencer came forward. She said she is
speaking for her parents who live at 6628 Tabor
Street.
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Ms. Spencer said North Richland Hills
received this property for a park, but decided
a park was not needed. She said they sold it
to the highest bidder. Ms. Spencer said this
property was purchased by Mr. Daley who sold
it off by metes and bounds to the adjoining
property owners.
Ms. Spencer said this property is not a part
of these lots, they receive separate tax state-
ments, and there is no access to this land.
She said they can not get to this land because
the homes are too close together. Ms. Spencer
said if Mike Street is not extended this property
would be landlocked.
Ms. Spencer said Lariat Street has been stubbed
out for at least seventeen years.
Ms. Spencer said the property owners are aware
of the cost of a public street and are willing
to participate in the cost.
Ms. Spencer said Mr. Barrett has not closed on
this property yet so he would not be loosing a
lot. She said if Mike Street is extended, these
lots could be developed and would make more tax
revenue for the city.
Mr. Tucker asked Mr. Long how he planned to get
the people in and out of this project.
Mr. Long said they did not feel Lariat would be
that much help and it does not stub out to our
property.
Mr. Long said this property to the north, the
owners got for a good price and they bought it
knowing it was landlocked, and now they want
someone to bail them out.
Mr. Long said if the Commission thinks their
private drive needs to aline with Mike Street,
they could arrange it. He said anything that is
built on Rufe Snow will create traffic.
Mr. Long said his client would like for the
Commission to approve his preliminary plat,
but he does not want to pay for someone else
a street. He said if the City wants to put
in the street, they could assess property
owners on both sides.
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Mr. Barrett said he doesn't have a lot of time
and with the loss of land for street right-of-
way and front yard, he would not be able to
meet the 2.5 parking space requirement.
Mr. Tucker said he still feels the lots and
block situation is a problem.
Mr. Wood read the definition of a lot from
page 99 of the Zoning Ordinance.
Mr. Hannon said he does not feel this developer
should have to give up his expensive land for
a street to benefit these adjoining property
owners. He said if the property owners could
work out a solution, that would be fine.
Mr. Hannon said he did feel this property
should be platted into just one lot and go to
the Board of Adjustment for a variance from the
rear yard requirement.
Mr. Hannon said he would like for Mr. Long to
take another look at the ditch on the south-
east corner. He said he feels he needs a
wider ditch close to the property line.
Mr. Long said as the property to the south
develops, this would be carried on down stream.
He said the City Engineer asked why they were
just paving the bottom. He said they would like
for it to be a natural flow, but they have a
problem with the sewer line. Mr. Long said
they were concreting the bottom to keep down
erosion because of the sewer line.
Mr. Long said it is a possibility that they may
not be able to tie onto this sewer line. He
said when they do the final engineering on it,
if that sewer line is eight inches higher, they
will have to tie into a sewer line down south.
Mr. Hannon said he was in favor of approving
this plat with the stipulation they get a
variance.
Mr. Tucker said he would like to see the two
groups get together and work out a solution.
Mr. Hannon said if they come back with a final
plat and no solution, the Commission could
deny the plat.
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PS 82-5l
APPROVED
Mr. Hannon made a motion to approve PS 82-5l
subject to showing the property as one block
only and subject to private drives as fire
lanes and public access easements and the
northerly one be brought in to aline with
Mike street, and also subject to the Engineer's
comments. This motion was seconded by
Mr. Bowen and the motion carried 3-2 with
Mr. Tucker and Ms. Nash voting against.
Mr. Bowen said he would like to encourage these
folks to get with Mr. Barrett to see if some-
thing could be worked out.
Ms. Spencer said Mr. Barrett said he had met
with some of the property owners, but this is
the first she had heard of it, she had not
seen a set of plans or anything. Ms. Spencer
said she did not feel it was fair for the
individual property owners to bear the full cost
of the street.
Bill Ernst, 6612 Tabor, came forward. He said
he had lived at this address for twelve years.
He said he worked with Mr. Daley in dividing
it up to the property owners, and it was not
with the idea of having someone build us a
street. Mr. Ernst said they are not here
begging or trying to force anyone to build us
a street, all they are asking is for some con-
sideration be given to extending Mike street
at pro rata cost.
9.
PS 82-52
POSTPONED
Request of Hospital Corporation of America for
preliminary plat of Lot 1, Block E, Calloway
Farm Addition.
The Chairman stated this has been postponed
until October 28, 1982.
1.
PS 82-38
Request of Stonybrooke, Inc. for final plat of
Lots 7-12 and Tract A-R, Block 13, Stonybrooke
Addition.
Doug Long came forward. He said he had received
the City Engineer's comments and have responded
to them. Mr. Long said when that property was
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PS 82-38
APPROVED
ADJOURNMENT
developed, they had stubbed out an 18 inch
storm sewer into the northeast corner of this
commercial tract so when this is developed,
they will have to fill in the northeast corner.
He said he had discussed this with the City
Engineer and he understands now.
Mr. Long said at the rezoning of this piece of
land, there were neighbors present who spoke
in favor of this development.
Mr. Bowen made a motion to approve PS 82-38
subject to the Engineer's comments.
This motion was seconded by Mr. Wood and the
motion carried 5-0.
The meeting adjourned at 9:35 p.m.
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