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CALL TO ORDER
ROLL CALL
BA 82-16
MINUTES OF THE SPECIAL MEETING OF THE
ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT OF THE
CITY OF NORTH RICHLAND HILLS, TEXAS
OCTOBER 19, 1982 - 7:00 P. M.
The Chairman, Jack Roseberry, called the
meeting to order at 7:05 P. M.
PRESENT:
CHAIRMAN
MEMBERS
Jack Roseberry
Ma rti n Erck
Harold Schubert
Bill Fenimore
Hans Koss 1 er
Dick Faram
Jim Ramsey
Jim Kenna
Richard Davis
Harold Newman
Bill Rice
Wanda Calvert
AL T. MEMBER
MAYOR
MAYOR PRO TEM
o.OUNCILMEN
BUILDING OFFICIAL
P & Z COORDINATOR
ABSENT:
Jesse Range
Request of Arnold F. Mincey, Jr. to vary
from the Zoning Ordinance #179 on a portion
of Blocks 2 & 3, Snow Heights North Addition,
and portions of Tracts 2A, 284, & 2B4A,
Abstract 1606, W. W. Wallace Survey, to
request the parking spaces per unit be
decreased from 2.5 to 2.0; request the
square footage minimum of 750 sq. ft. per
building be changed to an average of 750
sq. ft. per project; and request the
requirement of 2200 sq. ft. of site per
living unit be changed to 1815 sq. ft. per
living unit.
This property is located on the north side
of Northeast Loop 820 and is approximately
1196 feet east of the intersection of North-
east Loop 820 and Rufe Snow Drive.
The Chairman said he did some research and
according to Roberts Rules of Order, page
47, they need a motion to resume a hearing
and with a two-third vote.
Mr. Erck made the motion to resume hearing.
This motion was seconded by Mr. Schubert,
and the motion carried 4-0, all members
voting yea.
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The Chairman said they would resume the
Public Hearing and called for anyone
wishing to speak to please come forward.
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Arnold Mincey, Partner in J. D. Sims Co.,
came forward. He restated their three
variance requests:
#1. Request that the average of 750 sq.
ft. unit size per building be changed
to the average of 750 sq. ft. per
project.
#2. Request to decrease the requirement of
2.5 parking spaces per unit to 2.0.
#3. Request for a variance in density. He
said the City Ordinance requires 2200
sq. ft. of land per unit which is 19.8
units per acre and their request was
for 1815 sq. ft. of land or 24 units
per acre, but they wanted to revise it
to 2016 sq. ft. or 21.6 units per acre.
He said even though they could not calculate
density on easements, they would still be
maintaining that amount of land.
Mr. Mincey said they are very proud of the
quality of this project. He showed pictures
to the Board.
Mr. Mincey said it would be of very high
quality with masonery walls, sloped roofs,
concrete drives, all the aménities you
would find in a Class A project. He said
they would be going with the name of Tennis
Club West and it would consist of a club
room with exercise equipment, tennis courts,
a gazebo, a putting green, jogging tract, and
hopefully a 3 car fairway. Mr. Mincey said
they will market to the young professionals
and young couples with very young children.
Mr. Mincey said their site plan was different
in that it features the loop system. He
said the advantages in requesting the 750 sq.
ft. average for the project instead of the
average of 750 sq. ft. per building is they
will have a higher quality unit with lower
cost which frees money up to use somewhere
else, such as landscaping. He said it eliminates
any awkward building configurations.
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Mr. Mincey said the second request was for
parking, from 2.5 to 2.0 parking spaces
per unit. He said they had been very
thorough in their research which tells
them that 1.8 to 2.0 is sufficient. Mr.
Mincey said they know they have to provide
enough parking to make this project market-
able, but did not feel 2.5 spaces were
necessary. He said if in the future, there
was a need for more parking, they would
just have to take some of their green area
for parking.
Mr. Mincey said for their third request
from 2200 sq. ft. of land per unit, or 19.8
units per acre, to 2016 sq. ft. or 21.6 units
per acre would mean 18 more units. He said
the reason for this request is for a higher
quality project; the more they can divide
the cost by, the higher quality project they
can have.
Mr. Mincey said he felt 18 more units would
not impact the intersection of Rufe Snow and
820 which already accommodates 14,000 autos
per day. He said 18 more units would only
be approximately 10 more cars at the peak
hours in the morning and evening.
Mr. Mincey said with the development of this
project, Lewis Drive will be put in, making
access to the school, as he had pointed out
in the last meeting. He said this would free
up the intersection of Rufe Snow and 820 by
at least 100 cars.
Mr. Roseberry said at the last meeting, they
were approached by the Mayor and City Council
regarding a compromise in the problem with the
school parking. He asked if there was a
decision.
Mike Carrancejie, 5750 Rufe Snow Drive, came
forward. He said they were approached by
some of the City Council that if the variances
were granted on the 30 acres to be developed
by The Chasewood Co. and J. D. Simms Co.,
could there be some relief given the school
for parking. Mr. Carrancejie said the Council
asked the developers to donate 4 acres at the
southwest corner of Reynolds and Lewis Drive
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for school parking. He said at $2 per
sq. ft., donating 4 acres would not
justify the development.
Mr. Carrancejie said they worked with the
Council and developers for 3 days and felt
they could donate 2 acres for parking if
they got the density requested. He said
he had been in contact with the Council by
phone and this was rejected. Mr. Carrancejie
said this would make approximately 290
parking spaces and the school does not need
that many parking spaces. He said the school
has 30 acres across the street from the school
that they use for bank practice; they could
use this for parking. Mr. Carrancejie said
he had been in contact with the School Board
and they say providing more parking area is
not in their budget. He said he was in
conversation with the School Board President
last Friday and also today, and he said they
would like to have the property, but they
would not protest the development.
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Mr. Carrancejie said he felt the 2 acres was
a good compromise, but as of last evening,
Mr. Ramsey said it was not acceptable. Mr.
Carrancejie said there is no way these developers
could donate $360,000 worth of land.
Mr. Erck said regardless of the compromise,
it would have nothing to do with the decision
of this Board regarding these variance requests.
Mr. Carrancejie said they would still have
to go through platting approval, building
permits, and getting certificate of occupancy.
He said they were not trying to have a power
struggle with this Board and the City Council.
The Chairman called for those wishing to
speak in opposition to these requests to
please come forward.
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Mayor Pro Tern Jim Ramsey, 4404 Lariat, came
forward. He said he wanted to thank the
Board for their consideration in this matter.
He said they may have overstepped their
bounds in trying to come up with something
the city is going to have to live with. He
said the apartments are going in and they
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were just trying to get something workable
for everyone in the city.
Mr. Ramsey said he spoke as a citizen and
a parent because he has a son in the 12th
grade and one in the 7th grade who will
soon be in this school, too.
Mr. Ramsey said there is a parking problem,
just go by the school any day and you can
see for yourself, especially with additional
development in the area. He said the Board
denied a parking variance last month and if
they approve this request, it would just
open the door for others who plan to build
in our city. Mr. Ramsey said regarding the
square footage, we set the standards for our
city and then someone comes in and wants to
build here, but the first thing they want to
do is to vary from our standards. He said
he did not feel anyone should come to our
city and impose their standards on us.
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Mr. Ramsey said he knows the apartments are
going in anyway, but felt the 4 acres would
help the school IS parking problem, it might
solve the problem, but it would not solve it
tomorrow because the hi gh, schoo 1 is goi ng to
grow. He said he has not heard anything
about a bond program to expand the school,
but it will have to be expanded at that
location. Mr. Ramsey said last week when it
rained, they had 5 hit-and-run accidents, so
the city does inherit the problem.
Mr. Ramsey said in regard to the density, he
would request the Board pay attention to the
letter from the Director of Public Works and
the comments from the City Attorney. He
said this request is a radical departure
from the City Ordinance and is not a variance.
Mr. Ramsey said he would like to thank Mike
Carrancejie for all his time he spent with
them on this project and also wanted to
thank them for the 2 acres they are donating
to the school.
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Mr. Roseberry said he and the Board feels
the Council has acted in bad faith in trying
to sway the Board in these matters.
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Mr. Ramsey said he was sorry if Mr.
Roseberry felt they were acting in bad
faith because he had worked with these
people a number of hours trying to work
out something we thought would be in the
best interest of this community. He said
if he had stepped on someonels toes trying
to work this out, he did not feel he owed
anyone any apology; the only thing he had
done was give up his time.
Mr. Fenimore said Mr. Roseberry was not
speaking for him and he is a member of this
Board.
Mike Carrancejie came forward. He said in
working with Mr. Ramsey and the developers,
they offered a compromise subject to their
support and also in getting the approval of
the variances, but it was rejected.
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Councilman Richard Davis, 7108 Shauna, came
forward. He said he spoke to this group
last month about a problem he was concerned
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Mr. Davis said to just wipe out the issue of
giving acreage to the school and just consider
the variance requests. He said he wants this
city to be the best city around and do not
feel we should lower our standards for any
kind of development whether it be for housing
or commercial development. Mr. Davis said
he does encourage development on our city
and feel this is a good project. He said he
understands they do plan to build in our city
and if the Board grants these variances, they
will be setting a precedence to the property
to the east and west.
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Mr. Davis said parking has always been a
problem at the school. He said he was a
student there a few years back and it was a
problem then. He said the city does inherit
these problems.
Mr. Davis said he would like to address Mr.
Roseberry. He said he is not here as a
Councilman, he is here as a concerned citizen
and he would be here whether he was a Council-
man or not.
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Mr. Davis said he personally talked to
3 of the School Board members and they
are totally opposed to apartments being
built here.
Mr. Davis said regardless of what has been
worked out, they tried to do what was best
for the whole city, for your children, our
children, and grandchildren. He said the
action taken here tonight will have a last-
ing effect on the community, if you grant
these requests, you will be setting a
precedence for other developers in other
parts of the city, also.
Mr. Davis said he respectfully requests
the Board deny the parking request, deny the
minimum square footage request, and as the
letter from the Director of Public Works
states, vote against the density request and
send that on to the Council. Mr. Davis said
the Public Works Director and the City
Attorney feel this is a zoning change, not a
variance request.
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Mayor Dick Faram, 5020 Eldorado Drive, came
forward. He said he had intentionally tried
not to attend these Board meetings since he
came to the office of the Mayor, but he will
not sacrifice his right as a citizen. Mayor
Faram said he was speaking as a citizen. He
said he does not have children in this school,
but he has had a lot of problems fall on his
shoulders in public office because of this
very problem.
Mayor said he had also been in contact with
a School Board member. He said the School
Boardls planning in years past may not have
been the best, but when it was planned, the
economic factors were different. Mayor Faram
said we live in an area which has no public
transportation, we must depend on private
transportation. He said every family has 2
or more cars which some have to be parked on
the street and the City inherits the problem.
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Mayor Faram said the city is estimated to be
40% developed, and as it developes, it will
reach 80,000 people. He said Watauga is not
developed. Mayor Faram said there are about
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2,200 students in that school today and
it is going to get bigger and there are
no plans to build another high school. He
said all he could see is larger enrollment
and more parking problems.
Mayor Faram said they are requesting to
build 18 more apartments than our require-
ment and there are 20 more acres to be
developed in apartments, so multiply 18 by
3. He said if you grant this request, you
would have to allow the other developer do
the same.
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Mayor Faram said we do have a problem, it
is not the school IS problem, it is the
cityls problem. He said they had worked
long hours trying to work out a solution.
Mayor Faram said we are not arm twisting,
not blackmailing, we are just stating a
fact, we do have a problem. He said these
developers can come in and build these
apartments, they would not have the problem,
the city would inherit the problem if you
grant a lesser parking requirement.
Mayor Faram said he also felt there would be
problems if the Board granted a greater
density, but he could not help but feel we
could work something out for the school
parking since they have no resources to buy
land.
Mayor Faram said someone mentioned there
could be 290 parking places in 2 acres, but
according to figures by the City Staff, there
could only be 131 parking spaces per acre.
Mayor Faram said as a citizen, he was asking
the Board reject all 3 variance requests.
Mr. Erck asked Mayor Faram about the talk a
few years back about a third thoroughfare.
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Mayor Faram said at this point, it would be
difficult to do; this was suggested before
the agreement was reached with Watauga for
the expansion of Rufe Snow. He said we do
need that thoroughfare, but with the economics,
there are no plans at this time for it.
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Mr. Erck asked if anyone could tell
what is proposed for more industry in this
area. He said it would help him in his
decision.
Mayor Faram said there has been a lot of
speculation. He said he is disappointed
that this property is being proposed to be
used for apartments. Mayor Faram said he
felt it could be used for a much better use,
however, if they want to build apartments,
then we want a little help in return with
the school IS parking.
Mayor Faram said they were trying to limit
the curb cuts on Rufe Snow because of the
traffic.
Mr. Erck said he would like to know if there
was more Multi-Family or Retail zoned tracts
in this area from 820 to the railroad where
more development could be.
Mr. Carrancejie came forward. He gave an
indepth detail of the land from Loop 820
north to the railroad.
Mr. Carrancejie said if these variances are
granted, it will enable John Cook to put in
Lewis Drive which would help considerably.
The Chairman closed the Public Hearing and
asked Ms. Calvert if there had been any
correspondence.
Ms. Calvert said there had been none.
RECESS
BACK TO ORDER
The Chairman called a recess at 8:10 P. M.
The Chairman called the meeting back to order
at 8:30 P. M. with the same members present.
The Chairman said it takes 4 affirmative
votes to pass any request.
Mr. Schubert made a motion to handle each
request, one at a time.
This motion was seconded by Mr. Kossler, and
the motion carried 5-0~ all members voting yea.
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The Chairman stated the Board would
consider the parking request first.
Mr. Roseberry said in order for the new
members to know what the Board has done
in the past, he asked Mr. Rice what had
been done.
Mr. Rice said the City has held them to
2.5 spaces per unit since he has been here,
which is almost 2 years.
Mr. Erck asked how many apartment complexes
have been built since Mr. Rice came here.
Mr. Rice said there have been two, Haystack
Apartments on Thousand Oaks Drive, and
University Plaza apartments on Weyland Drive.
Mr. Schubert asked if there had been any
feedback.
Mr. Rice said he had not had any complaints.
Mr. Erck said he made a study on his own. He
said he contacted two apartment managers and
asked them what their situation was for
parking and one said in one area of the complex
was horrible and one area was not. He said
this did not help him so he asked how many
one bedroom and how many two bedroom apartments
and what their parking spaces were. He said
the manager said for the one bedroom, it was
one and one-half parking spaces and for two
bedrooms, it was two parking spaces.
Mr. Erck said he used the information given
by your company and it came out that you would
need 372 to satisfy the requirement, and you
have on your tabulation 243 units, which
would be roughly 60 cars over. He said you
also have to realize you would have guests
with cars.
BA 82-16-#1
DENIED
Mr. Schubert made the motion to deny the
request for 2.0 parking spaces per unit.
This motion was seconded by Mr. Erck and the
motion to deny carried 4-1 and the following
vote was recorded: Schubert, yea, Erck, yea,
Kossler, yea, Fenimore, yea, and Roseberry, nay.
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The Chairman stated the Board would now
consider the 2nd request, from the average
of 750 sq. ft. per building to 750 sq. ft.
per project.
Mr. Kossler asked Mr. Rice the history of
variances regarding the size.
Mr. Rice said he requires an average of
750 sq. ft. per building.
Mr. Kossler asked if the Board had granted
any variances since he had been here.
Ms. Calvert said this same variance was
granted to Folsom Investments for University
Plaza and to Epoch Properties for Haystack
Apartments, and also the one last month.
She said these are the only ones she remembers,
but she could check the files for others.
BA 82-16 #2
APPROVED
Mr. Erck made a motion to approve the request
for the average of 750 sq. ft. per project.
This motion was seconded by Mr. Fenimore, and
the motion carried 5-0 with the following vote
recorded: Erck, yea, Fenimore, yea, Kossler,
yea, Roseberry, yea, and Schubert, yea.
The Chairman said the Board would consider
the 3rd request which was to vary from the
2200 sq. ft. of site to 1815 and modify to
2016 sq. ft.
Mr. Erck made a motion to modify the request
of 1815 to 2016 sq. ft.
The Chairman said he felt this motiDn was too
early and asked Mr. Erck to withdraw his
motion.
Mr. Erck withdrew his motion.
The Chairman asked for any questions.
There were none.
Mr. Erck made a motion that the requirement
of 2200 sq. ft. he changed or modified to
2016 sq. ft. per unit.
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This motion was seconded by Mr. Schubert
and the motion carried 4-1 with the
follöwing vote recorded: Erck, yea,
Schubert, yea, Roseberry, yea, Fenimore,
yea, and Kossler, nay.
There was a discussion among the Board
members.
The Chairman said some of the Board members
thought they were voting on the variance
and some thought they were voting to modify
the request. He said he wanted a new motion
clearly stating the request.
Mr. Erck made a motion on BA 82-16 that the
requirement of 2200 sq. ft. of site per unit
be changed to 2016 sq. ft. per living unit
be modified.
The Chairman asked Mr. Erck if he was making
a motion to approve the request.
Mr. Erck said he was not, he made the motion
to modify the 1815 sq. ft. to 2016 sq. ft.,
then there would be a motion to deny or
approve.
Mr. Fenimore asked if the Board could do
this.
The Chairman said they needed a motion for
the variance request.
Mr. Erck made the motion that the request
for a variance from the 2200 sq. ft. per
unit to 1815 sq. ft. be modified to 2016
sq. ft. and be approved.
This motion was seconded by Mr. Schubert
and the motion failed by a vote of 3-2 with
the following vote recorded: Erck, yea,
Schubert, yea, Roseberry, yea, Kossler, nay,
and Fenimore, nay.
The Chairman stated: #1 Request was DENIED
#2 Request was APPROVED
#3 Request was DENIED.
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