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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPZ 1980-09-25 Minutes . . . MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF NORTH RICHLAND HILLS, TEXAS, SEPTEMBER 25, 1980. CALL TO ORDER The Acting Chairman, Carl Greenfield, called the meeting to order at 7:35 P.M. OATH OF OFFICE The Acting Chairman administered the oath of office to new Commission members Don Bowen and Ronnie Newman. ROLL CALL PRESENT: Carl Greenfield Marjorie Nash Don Bowen Ronnie Newman ABSENT: Jim Ramsey CITY STAFF PRESENT: COUNCILWOMAN COUNCILMAN ASST. CITY MANAGER P & Z COORDINATOR CLERK Sharyl Groves Bob Brady Dennis Horvath Wanda Calvert Desi Smyth ELECTION OF CHAIRMAN AND SECRETARY OF P & Z. CO"MMISSION Mr. Newman nominated Carl Greenfield for Chairman. This was seconded by Mrs. Nash. The vote was 3-0 in favor of Mr. Greenfield. Mr. Bowen nominated Marjorie Nash for secretary. This was seconded by Ronnie Newman. The vote was 3-0 in favor of Mrs. Nash. CONSIDERATION OF THE MINUTES OF JULY 24, 1980 The minutes were postponed due to there not being enough present that were present at this meeting. CONSIDERATION OF THE MINUTES OF AUGUST 28, 1980 The minutes were postponed due to there not being enough present that were present at this meeting. NEW BUSINESS PS 80-35 APPROVED Request of Schick Shadel Hospital for preliminary plat of Lot 1, Block D, Calloway Farms Addition. Mr. Ted Everage, Everage Engineers, came forward to represent Schick Hospital. . . . Page 2 P & Z Minutes September 25, 1980 1 Mr. Everage said he made some evaluations and found the former owners had never platted the property which is being used as an existing hospital. Mr. Everage said he had received the Engineer's comments and would like to address each of them. #1. Present ownership with volume & page numbers have been added to the plat. #2. Acreage has been revised to show 4.00 acres. #3. Offsite drainage map has just been submitted to Mrs. Calvert showing that the southwest corner of this tract is the high point of this area as stated previously on the preliminary plat. He said they had added additional information concerning the culvert at their northeast corner showing its capacity exceeds the runoff from this site even if it were fully developed. The capacity is 34 cubic feet per second. #4. Regarding fire protection-the existing building is adequately covered by the 300 ft. radius criteria. Since the details of any improvements have not been determined at this time, we do not believe it is appropriate to extend any watermains or add any fire hydrants at this time. #5. Regarding pro rata-since this is an existing facility using and paying for existing water supply and sewer service, this suggestion seems inappropriate. #6. Utility and/or water line easements will be granted if they are required when the details of future expansions are more formalized. Mr. Everage said the property drains from south to north into a 36" culvert~ He said the ditch is approximately 4 ft~ wide at the bottom, approximately 10 ft. wide at the top and at least 3 ft. deep. Mr. Newman asked about the culvert toward the mall. Mr. Greenfield said there were several drop- offs at approximately 90% angles. What would happen with the run-off should there be heavy rains? . . . Page 3 P & Z Minutes September 25, 1980 Mr. Everage said he hadn't gone very far from the property. He said this is only a 4 acre tract of land and he didn't feel his client should have to pay for caluc- lations down stream. Mr. Everage said the velocity is not great, but it would carry a lot of water. Mrs. Nash asked Mrs. Calvert if she had checked about the pro rata. Mrs. Calvert said she had not. Mr. Greenfield asked Mr. Everage if they were in opposition to items 5 & 6 of the Engineer's letter. Mr. Everage said they were not exactly objecting to them, but since this is an existing building, already been getting water bills, etc., he feels they should not be required to pay this pro rata again. Mr. Horvath said they usually waive the pro rata in cases like this. Mr. Newman asked if Mr. Horvath was referring to item #6. Mr. Horvath stated he was speaking regarding #5 and there would probably have to be a letter of intent on #6. The Chairman called for anyone wishing to speak regarding this request to please come forward. There being no one to speak, the Chairman closed the public hearing. Mr. Newman moved, seconded by Mrs. Nash, to approve PS 80-35 subject to the Engineer's comments and providing a letter of committment specificálly to items 4 & 6 of the Engineer's letter. The motion carried 4-0. PS 80-36 APPROVED Request of Richard Hudler for preliminary plat of Lot 1, Block 1, Red Gate Addition. PS 80-37 APPROVED Request of Richard Hudler for final plat of Lot 1, Block 1, Red Gate Addition. . . . Page 4 p & Z Minutes September 25, 1980 Mr. Delbert Stembridge, Consulting Engineer, came forward to represent Richard Hudler in his requests. Mr. Stembridge said Mr. Hudler owns a tract of land directly across the road from the 7-11 store in College Circle Shopping Center. Mr. Stembridge said Mr. Hudler plans to build an office building on this property and will have his office there. Mr. Stembridge stated he had received the Engineer's letter and they have no objections to the comments. He said he had made the corrections that were requested and in regards to item #2, Mr. Hudler would like to sign a letter of covenant for the pro rata for future improvements on Davis Blvd. Mr. Greenfield asked if the building would be one single office. Mr. Stembridge said there probably would be more than one. Mrs. Nash asked if it would be one story. Mr. Stembridge said it would be. Mr. Richard Hudler came forward. He said he does not have the final plans yet for the building, but the pla~s will be his Rea1 Estate and Construction Company, and the other will be individual office spaces. Mr. Hudler said the building would be 7000 sq. ft. floor space and would have more parking space than the city requires because he feels he would need more for his employees. The Chairman called for anyone wishing to speak regarding these requests to please come forward. There being no one to speak, the Chairman closed the public hearing. Mr. Newman moved, seconded by Mrs. Nash, to approve PS 80-36 subject to the Engineer's comments and further that on item #2, they be allowed to sig~ a covenant. Motion carried 4-0. . . . . ~ Page 5 P & Z Minutes September 25, 1980 Mr. Newman moved, seconded by Mrs. Nash, to approve PS 80-37 subject to the Engineer's comments and further that on item #2, they be allowed to sign a covenant. Motion carried 4-0. PS 80-38 APPROVED Request of Dr. Charles Rush for preliminary plat of Lot 5, Block A, Calloway Farms Addn. PS 80-39 APPROVED Request of Dr. Charles Rush for final plat of Lot 5, Block A, Calloway Farms Addition. Mr. Delbert Stembridge, Consulting Engineer, came forward to represent Dr. Rush in his requests. Mr. Stembridge said Dr. Rush and several other doctors own this property and they propose to construct a one-story pro- fessional building. Mr. Stembridge said that Tommy Thompson surveyed the property and supplied the plats and he (Mr. Stembridge) did the engineering review. Mr. Stembridge said they had received the Engineer's letter and they take no exceptions to the comments. He said he had changed the building line to 25 ft. as requested. Mr. Stembridge said he had checked the Flood Insurance Rate Map and found the floor elevation line is 561 ft. and the building is 571 ft. so it is 10 feet higher than required. Mr. Stembridge stated regarding item #5- they have changed the existing 6" sewer line to 8" and item #6 regarding increasing the 3/4" service line to a 2", they also agreed to do. Mr. Stembridge said that they have also agreed to items #7 & 8 and will submit the revised plat prior to going to council. Mr. Greenfield asked Mr. Stembridge how he answered item #5 regarding abandoning the existing 6" sewer and putting in an 8". Mr. Stembridge said they will do what is required. . . . ~ Page 6 P & Z Minutes September 25, 1980 Mrs. Nash said in other words, you are going to do what the City Engineer has asked. Mr. Stembridge said that was correct. The Chairman called for anyone wishing to speak regarding these requests to please come forward. There being no one to speak, the Chariman closed the public hearing. Mr. Bowen moved, seconded by Mrs. Nash, to approve PS 80-38 subject to the Engineer's comments. Motion carried 4-0. Mr. Bowen moved, seconded by Mrs. Nash, to approve PS 80-39 subject to the Engineer's comments. Motion carried 4-0. PS 80-41 POSTPONED Request of Cðmbridge Co. Dev. Corp. for preliminary plat of Lot 4, Block 2, North Park Plaza, 2nd Filing. PS 80-42 POSTPONED Request of Cambridge Co. Dev. Corp. for final plat of Lot 4, Block 2, North Park Plaza, 2nd Filing. Mr. Neil Cukerbaum came forward to represent Cambridge Co. Dev. Corp. in their requests. Mr. Cukerbaum said they plan to build a small strip shopping center on this site. Mr. Cukerbaum stated they had received the Engineer's letter and have no objections to any of the Engineer's comments. He said he had revised the plats and had them here. Mr. Greenfield asked Mr. Cukerbaum if he did not have any objection to any of the items in the Engineer's letter. Mr. Cukerbaum said he planned to get with the City Engineer, Mr. Albin, and see just what he wants. Mrs. Nash asked what they plan to do on this property. Mr. Cukerbaum said they plan to have a small strip shopping center. . . . 1 Page 7 P & Z Minutes September 25, 1980 Mr. Newman asked Mr. Cukerbaum about the letter from TESCO requesting additional easements. Mr. Cukerbaum said they had discussed this with TESCO and since Cambridge Co. owns all the property in back of them to the houses, they have agreed to give TESCO an easement along the back property line. Mr. Greenfield asked about the construction plans which were not submitted at the time the preliminary & final plats were. Mr. Cukerbaum said his Engineer was working on them and they would be submitted soon enough for the City Engineer to get a review letter back before going to the City Council. The Chairman called for anyone wishing to speak regarding these requests to please come forward. There being no one to speak, the Chairman closed the public hearing. Mr. Greenfield said that item #10 of the Engineer's letter deals with the construction plans and fire protection. He asked Mr. Cukerbaum if these were being worked out. Mr. Cukerbaum said that was correct. Mrs. Nash moved, seconded by Mr. Newman, to postpone PS 80-41 till such time the construction plans are submitted. Motion carried 4-0. Mr. Cukerbaum said one of the reasons for not submitting the construction plans previously was the subdivision drains to the street and they already have water and sewer down Rufe Snow Drive. Mr. Cukerbaum said they are ready to begin construction of the building and if the Board postpones this, it would make a real hardship on them. . . . 1 Page 8 P & Z Minutes September 25, 1980 Mr. Cukerbaum said they would make a commitment to have the construction plans in to Mrs. Calvert by Monday. Mrs. Nash moved, seconded by Mr. Bowen, to postpone PS 80-42 till such time the construction plans are submitted and approved by staff. Motion carried 4-0. PZ 80-28 APPROVED Request of E. F. Crites and Budget Rent- A-Car to rezone Lot lR, Block 1, Richfield Place Commercial Addition, from its present classification of Local Retail-Specific Use-Sale of Beer for off-premise consumption to a prosposed classification of Commercial- Specific Use-Rent Cars/Sale of Used Cars. This property is located at the intersection of Grapevine Hwy. and Davis Blvd., 7801 Grapevine Hwy. PS 80-32 APPROVED Request of E. F. Crites for replat of Lot 1R, Block 1, Richfield Place Commercial Addn. Mr. E. F. Crites, Jr. came forward. Mr. Crites stated he has leased this property to Michael Bailey for a Budget Rent-A-Car and the sale of used cars. Mr. Crites said this property is directly across from Hudiburg Chevrolet which has a rent car and used car operation, and down the street is a Hertz Buy-A-Car. He showed the Commission pictures of these areas.. Mr. Newman asked what their plans were. Michael Bailey, President of Northeast Lincoln Mercury, ca~e_forward. He stated he has a lease for this property which would supply the area from I-35 all the way to the Dallas County line and bounded on the north and south by the Tarrant County line. Mr. Bailey said it would be a rent car operation with the sale of the rental cars on the site, not a used car lot. He said he was requesting to be allowed to rent the cars and also sell the rental cars when they have 5000 to 6000 miles.. . . . ~ Page 9 p & Z Minutes September 25, 1980 Mr. Bailey said they wanted to see if they could get the zoning change before they submitted any plans. Mr. Newman asked if there would be any maintenance done at this site. Mr. Bailey said they would only be washing the cars, no mechanic work. Mr. Newman asked Mr. Bailey if he would be willing for the Commission to put a limit of only 2 or 3 year old cars. Mr. Bailey said he would not mind because the used cars would probably not be more than 6 to 8 months old. Mr. Greenfield asked Mr. Bailey if he would agree to the Board making a restriction to this. Mr. Bailey said he did not mind. He said his operation would be the same as Hertz, the only difference being he would also be allowed to rent the cars from this area. Mr. Bowen asked Mr. Bailey if this would only be cars, no trucks. Mr. Bailey said he does not plan to have any rental trucks, there would be no room for them. Mrs. Nash asked if he was speaking also of small pick-ups. Mr. Bailey said no, he might have a few small Datsuns, but no large trucks. Miles Ferris came forward with a site plan which he showed the Commission. Mr. Ferris said they plan a lot of site improvements such as asphalt overlay several areas, install 5 light poles, 3 inch pipe rail around the area, 1 Budget Rent-A-Car sign, renovate and paint, close in one bay for office space, update the electrical to city code, install quality floor covering, . . . ~ Page 10 P & Z Minutes September 25, 1980 replace 3 ton air conditioner, and update the restrooms to meet city code. Mr. Newman asked if it would be the existing building with improvements. Mr. Bailey said that was correct. Mr. Newman asked if this would give them plenty of room. He asked how many cars they plan to have. Mr. Bailey stated the building would be adequate. He said the north line of the property would give them a very large display area. Mr. Bailey said the property is deceiving because of its pie-shape. Mrs. Nash asked about the ingress-egress. Mr. Bailey said that they would have to go down and around because of the median on Grapevine highway, but would not have a problem on Davis Blvd. Mr. Greenfield said he had spoken with the Police Chief, Jack Long, regarding the ingress-egress and Mr. Long stated there is a severe traffic problem at this inter- section. He also stated there could not be anything blocking the view. Mr. Bailey said that 60% of their cars would not be on the lot, approximately 16 cars would be there at a time. He said they would have 50 to 60 units, but most of them would be in use. Mr~ Bailey said on an average day, they would have 40 cars, 24 of them in use and 16 available to rent on the property; only 40% would ever be on the lot. Mr~ Greenfield asked Mr. Horvath about the gas pumps that were on the property A Mr. Horvath said there would be no problem with the zoning, but the fire marshall would have to approve them. Mr. Bailey said they were not sure about the pumps. . . . ~ Page 11 p & Z Minutes September 25, 1980 Mr. Bailey showed pictures of how they plan for the area to look. Mr. Newman said Hertz was approximately 3% landscaped. He asked if they would agree to this also. Mr. Bailey said he wasn't sure this could be done because so much of it is already asphalt. There was discussion as to what could be landscaped. RECESS The Chairman called a 5 minute recess. CALL TO ORDER The Chairman called the meeting back to order at 9:05 P.M. with the same members present. Mr. Newman asked Mr. Ferris about the area they were discussing to landscape if that was state property. Mr. Crites said the part in front of the property is State R.O.W. Mr. Bailey said that no matter what he did on the property, if the State R.O.W. is not landscaped, it would not look good. He said he would like to also landscape the R.O.W. Mrs. Nash asked if they would maintain it. Mr. Bailey said they would. Mrs. Nash asked Mr. Bailey where he planned to get his clientele Mr. Bailey said several families have small cars so they rent large cars when they need to take a trip. Mr. Newman asked Mr. Bailey if he would agree to the Commission restricting it to no trucks larger than 1 ton. Mr. Bailey said that would be fine. The Chairman called for anyone wishing to speak regarding these requests to please come forward. . . . ~ Page 12 p & Z Minutes September 25, 1980 Mr. David Farmer, Asst. Manager of Henry S. Miller Company, came forward. He said they were the owners of Norrich Shopping Center. Mr. Farmer said he would like to speak in opposition to these requests. Mr. Farmer said they were making plans to remodel the shopping center. He said it changed ownership September 15th of this year, and they plan to build additional space on the west side of the drug store. Mr. Farmer said their concern was the Local Retail. He said they would like to see it stay Local Retail, and they also feel there is ample rental space in the area. Mr. Newman asked Mr. Farmer if this shopping center was directly behind the property in question. Mr. Farmer stated it was. He said he did not feel this area would meet the goals they were trying to achieve. Mr. Greenfield asked Mr. Farmer if he would like to share with us their intentions and goals. Mr. Farmer said they plan to remodel the shopping center. Mr. Greenfield asked why he was asking for this to be retained as Local Retail zoning. Mr. Farmer said he could not share anything with them at this time. Mr. Newman asked Mr. Ferris about the pipe fence he spoke about earlier. Mr. Ferris said it would be a low-rise pipe fence approximately 18 to 24 inches high and would be painted. Mr. Bailey said there would be a rail security fence along Grapevine and Davis, along the front, and an 8 ft. screening fence along the back of the property. . . . 1 Page 13 P & Z Minutes September 25, 1980 Mr. Newman asked Mr. Bailey what was the term of his lease. Mr. Bailey said it was a 10 year lease. Mr. Ferris said the screening fence would be of more advantage to the shopping center than them. Mrs. Nash asked Mr. Farmer if the screening fence would satisfy your client. Mr. Farmer said not really. He said they feel that Local Retail zoning is the best use for the area; if the zoning is changed to Commercial, it will deter our plans. Mrs. Nash asked Mr. Farmer if he would be interested in buying Mr. Crites property. Mr. Farmer said they would. Mr. Greenfield asked Mr. Farmer if they bought the property, would they tear the existing building down. Mr. Farmer said they would not. Mr. Crites said his property is not for sale. He said they had already tried to buy it. Mr. Ferris said this type of business would encourage adults in the area, not kids like a 7-11 store or such,would. Mr. Bailey said he gets confused with the Local Retail and Commercial zoning, but if you will just go by Northeast Lincoln Mercury and a shopping center, you will see the difference-ours will be clean. He said they have a sweeper and even sweep the street. He said it would not be cluttered or dirty. The Chairman called for anyone else wishing to speak regarding this request to please come forward. There being no one else to speak, the Chairman closed the public hearing. . . . 1 Page 14 P & Z Minutes September 25, 1980 Mr. Newman said he would like to make a motion to approve PZ 80-28 with the stipulation that 3% be landscaped, ~ of this being inside the property, no trucks larger than ~ ton, with one-way to the north on Davis Blvd., the property being surrounded with 3 inch pipe fence, and further that the age of the vehicles to be sold or rented will not be older than 2 years. The motion was seconded by Mrs. Nash. The motion carried 4-0. Mr. Crites said that in regards to the replat, they thought the property had been platted, but the city said it hadn't. Mrs. Calvert said it was in more than one lot so it was necessary for Mr. Crites to replat into one lot. Mr. Bowen moved, seconded by Mr. Newman, to approve PS 80-32 subject to the Engineer's comments. Motion carried 4-0. PZ 80-29 APPROVED Request of John M. McBroom to rezone a portion of Tract 2J, Abstract 1040, from its present classification of Agriculture to a proposed classification of IF-9-1500- One Family Dwelling. This property is located on the south side of Odell Street, approximately 600 feet west of Smithfield Road. Mr. Newman requested that he be excused from participating in this request since his father-in-law sold this property to Mr. McBroom. Mr. John McBroom came forward. He said he had just bought this property and he ~lans to build a 3-2-2 brick home on this property which is on Odell Street that has already been curbed and guttered. The Chairman asked for anyone wishing to speak regarding this request to please come forward. . . . 1 Page 15 p & Z Minutes September 25, 1980 There being no one to speak, the Chairman closed the public hearing. Mrs. Nash moved, seconded by Mr. Bowen, to approve PZ 80-29 as requested. The motion carried 3-0 with Mr. Newman abstaining. Mrs. Calvert said that Mr. Parish with P & S Construction Company had asked that PZ 80-30 and PS 80-33 be moved to the end of the agenda since he had another meeting to attend which would cause him to be late. PS 80-34 APPROVED Request of Richland Enterprises, Inc. for final plat of Lot 1, Block 27, Holiday North, Section 8. Mr. Alan Hamm came forward. He stated the preliminary plat had already been submitted previously. Mr. Hamm stated they had received the Engineer's letter and he believed there were two errors: 1. In item #8-he believes should read "east side" instead of on the "west side"; and 2. They have already put in the sewer and the Engineer is asking us to do it again. Mr. Greenfield asked Mr. Horvath how they should handle this. Mr. Horvath said he would get with Mr. Bronstad and check this out. Mr. Greenfield asked how they should word the motion. Mr. Horvath said to just make it subject to the Engineer's comments and he will check into the pro rata. Mr. Newman asked Mr. Hamrn if he agreed to all the other comments. Mr. Hamm said he did not feel there were any problems. Mr. Newman asked Mr. Hamm, in regards to item #4, if he had contacted TESCO. Mr. Hamm said he would not object to #4. Page 16 P & Z Minutes September 25, 1980 . . PZ 80-31 APPROVED PZ 80-32 APPROVED PZ 80-33 APPROVED-LOCAL RETAIL PZ 80-34 APPROVED PS 80-40 APPROVED . ~ Mr. Greenfield asked Mr. Hamm, other than item #8, are there any problems with the Engineer's comments. Mrs. Nash asked if she understood correctly that item #4 is taken care of. Mr. Hamm stated there were no other problems. The Chairman called for anyone wishing to speak regarding this request to please come forward. There being no one to speak, the Chairman closed the public hearing. Mr. Newman moved, seconded by Mr. Bowen, to approve PS 80-34 subject to the Engineer's comments and that in item #5, second sentence, change the word "suggest" to "require", and that item #8 be subject to the approval of the city staff. This motion carried 4-0. Request of Northeast Construction Company to rezone protions of Tracts 1 & 1B, Abstract 1606, from its present classification of Agriculture to the proposed classifications of Multi-Family, Local Retail, Commercial, and 2F-9-Two Family Dwellings. This property is located on the east side of Rufe Snow Drive, approximately 2500 feet north of Loop 820 and 1000 ft. south of St. Louis & Southwestern Railroad. Request of Northeast Construction Company for preliminary plat of Lots 13-23, Blk. 26, Lots 8-18, Blk. 33, & Lots 1 & 2, Blk. 35, Holiday West, Section III. Mr. Alan Hamm came forward. He stated there was Industrial zoning to the north and west, single family to the east, and Commercial to the south. Mr. Hamm said they would start with the development of the duplexes, then the Multi- Family. He also said they have a Veternarian and a cleaning establishment interested in the Commercial area. ~ Page 17 p & Z Minutes September 25, 1980 . Mrs. Nash asked what would be in the Local Retail area. Mr. Hamm said it would be a small retail center, but they have no exact plans, yet. Mr. Greenfield asked Mr. Hamm if he would object to changing the Commercial area to Local Retail. Mr. Hamm said he would because he already has clients for this area. Mr. Greenfield said to have this small area zoned Commercial would be spot zoning. Mr. Hamm said the area to the south is Commercial. Mrs. Calvert said it was not Commercial, it was Multi-Family. Mr. Hamm stated he remembered when it was zoned Commercial because he spoke regarding it. . Mrs. Calvert stated the property Mr. Hamm is thinking about is further south, close to 820 which was turned down by the City Council. Mr. Horvath said in order to get either client, it would have to be zoned Commercial. Mrs. Nash said she was against a cleaning establishment. Mr. Hamm stated that a "Comet" cleaners is a cleaning plant. Mr. Hamm said they were failing to realize that there was Industrial across the street and anything that could be put in Commercial zoning could also be in Industrial zoning; it is not like it is an isolated area. The Chairman called for anyone wishing to speak regarding these requests to please come forward. . There being no one to speak, the Chairman closed the public hearing. . . . 1 Page 18 p & Z Minutes September 25, 1980 Mr. Bowen moved, seconded by Mrs. Nash, to approve PZ 80-31 as requested. The motion carried 4-0. Mrs. Nash moved, seconded by Mr. Newman, to approve PZ 80-32 as requested. The motion carried 4-0. Mrs. Nash moved, seconded by Mr. Bowen, to deny PZ 80-33. The motion carried 3-0 with Mr. Newman abstaining. Mrs. Nash moved, seconded by Mr. Bowen, to approve PZ 80-34 as requested. The motion carried 4-0. The Chairman asked Mr. Hamm if he would like to speak regarding the preliminary plat, PS 80-40. Mr. Hamm came forward. He said they had received the Engineer's letter and they do take exception to item #2 regarding drainage. Mr. Hamm stated that the previous preliminary plat shows this drainage does not come on their property. He said he suggests this should be for the city to take care of, not them. Mr. Hamm said, also, on item #3 requesting an additional 15 ft. R.O.W., he believes that is an error. He said their plat shows a 60 ft. R.O.W. from the center line of Rufe Snow which would make it 120 ft. R.O.W. Mr. Hamm said surely they won't need another 15 ft. Mr. Greenfield asked Mr. Horvath what about this. Mr. Horvath said he had rather not speak regarding this until he can talk to the City Engineer, Richard Albin. Mr. Hamm said he also takes exception to items 2, 3, 9, & 10~ Mr. Horvath stated the city normally gets a letter of covenant for the pro rata. Gordon Swift, Consulting Engineer, came forward. He stated that this is a preliminary plat and all of the Engineer's connnents are to be completed prior to submitting the final plat. . . . ~ Page 19 P & Z Minutes September 25, 1980 The Chairman called for anyone wishing to speak regarding this request to please come forward. There being no one to speak, the Chairman closed the public hearing. RECESS The Chairman called a short recess. CALL TO ORDER The Chairman called the meeting back to order at 10:20 P.M. with the same members present. Mrs. Nash stated that in light of a discussion with Mr. Hamm during the recess regarding PZ 80-33, the request for Commercial zoning, she requests to reconsider her previous motion which was seconded and passed. Mr. Bowen said he would withtlraw his second and all members agreed to withdraw their vote. Mrs. Nash said that Mr. Hamm has indicated that he can live with a lesser zoning; therefore she made the motion to zone PZ 80-33 Local Retail as opposed to the Commercial zoning as originally requested. Mr. Bowen seconded this motion which carried 4-0. Mrs. Nash moved, seconded by Mr. Bowen, to approve PS 80-40 subject to the Engineer's comments being resolved with Mr" HamTIl and the City Staff. The motion carried 4-0. PZ 80-35 APPROVED Request of Clark Brothers to rezone a portion of Tracts 1 & 1B, Abstract 1606, from its present classification of Industrial to a proposed classification of Industrial-Specific Use-Billboard. This property is located on the east side of Rufe Snow, approximately 600 ft. south of the St. Louis & Southwestern Railroad. Mr. Jess Prideaux came forward. He stated he wants to erect an 8 X 20 ft. billboard sign and hope to elevate it to approximately 10 to 12 ft. . . . - ~ Page 20 P & Z Minutes September 25, 1980 Mr. Prideaux stated it would be a temporary sign which would be removed after the area is developed and a permanent sign then would be erected. Mr. Greenfield asked if it would be low enough to block the view. Mr. Prideaux stated it would not be. The Chairman called for anyone wishing to speak regarding this request to please come forward. There being no one to speak, the Chairman closed the public hearing. Mr. Newman moved, seconded by Mrs. Nash, to approve PZ 80-35 as requested. The motion carried 4-0. PZ 80-30 DENIED Request of P & S Construction to rezone Lots 1-5, Blk, t, Lots 1-17, Blk. 2, and Lots 1 & 2, Blk. 8, Meadowview Estates, from its present classification of IF-12 to a proposed classification of IF-9-1700- One Family Dwellings. This property is located between Rumfield Road and Kirk Lane, and is approximately 900 feet east of Davis Blvd. PS 80-33 DENIED Request of P & S Construction for replat of Blocks lR, 2R, & 8R, Meadowview Estates. Mr. John Parish came forward. He stated he was Vice President of P & S Construction Co. Mr. Parish stated he was not here to make the neighbors mad nor down-grade the sub- division. He said this land was previously zoned and platted in 1973. It was zoned IF-12 with the stipulation of 1800 sq. ft. homes. Mr. Parish stated he was asking for it to be changed to IF-9-1700. This would give 5 more lots for the subdivision. Mr. Parish said there is a rather large house that backs up to this property and . . . Page 21 p & Z Minutes September 25, 1980 he could understand why this person would be concerned, but these houses he plans to build will cost from $78,000 to $85,000. Mr. Parish said some of the houses will be 1900 sq. ft. floor space and some will be 2000 sq. ft. Mr. Parish said all he was trying to do was to trim some of the cost, but would be willing to agree to build 1800 sq. ft. homes. Mr. Parish said they want to be friends with the neighbors. Mr. Newman asked Mr. Parish if he was aware that some of these lots do not meet the IF-9 requirement. Mr. Parish said they don't meet the IF-12 but they meet the IF-9. Mr. Newman asked if he could fit a house on the lots on the cul de sac. Mr. Newman asked if he plans to build a house on Lot 20. Mr. Parish said yes, it would probably be the first one built. The Chairman called for anyone wishing to speak regarding these requests to please come forward. Mr. O. G. Tobias, 8800 Rumfield Road, came forward. He stated he was present when this property was first approved and they held out for the larger lots at that time. Mr. Tobias said he has 9 acres and another person has 3 lots. Mr. Tobias said that Stoneybrooke Addition has enough small lots. He said if you drive on Rumfield Road, you would soon see there should not be any more development until the city does something about the road. . . . Page 22 P & Z Minutes September 25, 1980 Mr. Tobias said they have low water pressure, they don't have many services from the city. Mr. Tobias said he would appreciate it if the Commission would consider that at the previous zoning, there were a lot of people who were for the larger lots. Kay Garrett, 8613 Rumfield Road, came forward. She said she did not disagree with this subdivision, but they have low water pressure, no sewer and bad roads. She said they are aware of the builder's obligations. Mrs. Garrett said her main request was for quality homes on large lots. Danny Wall, 8625 Rumfield Road, came forward. He said he had lived here for 3 years. He said he had watched this area grow. He said Stoneybrooke started out with large lots and they got smaller and smaller. Mr. Wall said he would like to see the city catch up before they build any more. Mr. Bowen asked why some of the area is zoned IF-9 and the other is IF-12. Mr. Parish said it was a compromise. He said they would up-grade the area. Mr. Parish said Mrs. Garrett's house is a frame house with an open garage. He said since they will put in the sewer, it would make sewer available to Mrs. Garrett and the others. Mr. Greenfield asked what the average selling price of these houses would be. Mr. Parish said they would average $80,000. Mr. Greenfield asked about TRA. Mr. Doug Long said the contracts have already been let. Mr. Horvath said it would probably be mid- summer. . . . l Page 23 P & Z Minutes September 25, 1980 ADJOURNMENT 7/J SECRETARY PL Mr. Bowen asked Mr. Parish what his time table was for completion. Mr. Parish said they would probably start in March, maybe 6 months away. The Chairman called for anyone else wishing to speak. There being no one else to speak, the Chairman closed the public hearing. Mr. Bowen moved, seconded by Mrs. Nash, to deny PZ 80-30. Mr. Parish said before they deny it, he would like to make a compromise. He said he would make the entire subdivision with 1600 sq. ft. houses and larger. Mr. Parish said he could sell to Fox and Jacobs. Mr. Newman said their concern is the lot size. Mr. Parish showed where they would be gaining the additional 5 lots. He said that the way the zoning is on the rest of the subdivision 50% of the houses are to be 1300 sq. ft. and 50% are to be 1500 sq. ft., but he said he would agree to build 1600 to 2000 sq. ft. homes in the entire subdivision. Ar. Tobias asked do they have to come back and fight this over and over again. The Chairman asked if either member wished to withdraw their motion and second. Neither wished to do so. The motion carried 3-0 with Mr. Greenfield abstaining. Mr. Bowen moved, seconded by Mrs. Nash, to deny PS 80-33. The motion carried 4-0. The meeting adjourned at 11:05 P.M. (ki .. ~ ~7 /, ~ V): P(~; I N.,G. ' AND ZONING COMMISSION