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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPZ 1979-10-25 Minutes . CALL TO ORDER ROLL CALL CONSIDERATION OF DATE FOR THE NOVEMBER P & Z MEETING NEW BUSINESS . PS 79-74 APPROVED PS 79-75 APPROVED . MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF NORTH RICHLAND HILLS, TEXAS, OCTOBER 25, 1979 The meeting was called to order by the Chairman, Mary Jo Shaunty, at 7:32 P.M. PRESENT: CHAIRMAN SECRETARY MEMBERS Mary Jo Shaunty Warren Eckhardt Jack Knowles Marjorie Nash CITY STAFF PRESENT: DIRECTOR OF P.W. P & Z CLERKS Jim Anderson Wanda Calvert Desi Smyth The Chairman moved this to the last of the agenda. The Chairman stated the platting cases would be heard first due to the controversial zoning cases to be heard. Request of Glen Buckner for replat of Lots 22R & 23R, Block 3, Briarwood Estates. Mr. Buckner stated this was just a matter of juggling some land. He stated he had a mishap on this cul-de-sac and just needs to shift the lot line a little. The Chairman asked if there was anyone who wished to speak in favor of or in opposition to this request. Mrs. Shaunty asked if the mistake was made when the slab was poured over the line a little bit. Mr. Buckner stated that was what happened. Mr. Knowles moved, seconded by Mr. Eckhardt, to APPROVE PS 79-74. Motion carried 4-0. Request of Marvin D. Smith for final plat of Maroaks Addition. Doug Long, Consulting Engineer, represented Mr. Smith in his request. He said he had received the Engineer1s comments and that Page 2 P & Z Minutes October 25, 1979 . items 2 through 10 are minor and they would be able to work them out before going to council, but #1 regarding the drainage is a problem. He said they will need to discuss this with Mr. Anderson and the council. . Mr. Knowles asked Mr. Anderson if this would affect the Morgan Meadows drainage problem. Mr. Anderson stated it would. He said he could not honestly recommend the approval of any plat in the drainage basin that would cause more drainage problem in Morgan Meadows. He stated he realized this puts a hardship on the developer owning the land upstream. He said the size of Maroaks Addition is con- siderably small compared to Windcrest Addition which was approved in 1978. The flow rates coming down on Morgan Meadows is extremely high. When you count the total drainage area draining through Morgan Meadows you are pro- bably looking at 620 acres and the flow rates are on the order of 900 cubic feet per second. Mr. Anderson stated that is the reason he can not recommend the approval of any development until we get a handle on this drainage problem. He stated the other Engineerls comments are relatively minor and can be worked out. ~~ stated the only way that he could see this plat could be handled, is to approve it with the stipulation that the city not negotiate the city developer agreement until this is solved. Mr. Anderson said he had requested the dev- eloper of Windcrest to provide a better drain- age plan than he had originally had. In fact he plans to channel the water down Hightower. Mr. Anderson stated it won It be totally satis- factory, it won It carry the 100 year flood, and doubted it would carry the ~ year" flood, but it will be better than previously planned. Mr. Anderson stated he realizes Mr. Smith shouldnlt be held responsible for this addition that was developed many years ago in the flood plain. The City is not responsible because it was not in the City of North Richland Hills at the time it was developed, but the people living there now were not aware it was built in the flood plain. . Mrs. Nash asked if Mr. Anderson had any idea how long it would be before you can come up with some kind of a solution. ~ Page 3 P & Z Minutes October 25, 1979 . Mr. Anderson stated a great deal will depend on talking a developer into developing the area west of Morgan Meadows and we would require him to solve the drainage problem. But, he said, the people in Morgan Meadows would probably want 1F-12 houses and there is no market for 1F-12 housing now. He said he doubted you could buy a 1F-12 house in North Richland Hills for less than $100,000. Mr. Anderson stated that the city will do what it can to make some interim corrections especially the elevation on that stock pond south of High- tower. He said, maybe, we can encourage the water to run back in the old channel on the west side of Morgan Meadows. . Mr. Long stated they were paying interest rate of 18% so they would like very much to get this plat approved, and then they could get with the city and see if we can get this drainage problem worked out. Mr. Long stated they have been talking with Foster Financial who are coming in for the balance of their property trying to work things out. Mr. Long stated that a developer doesn't always start at the Gulf and go to the hill, sometimes he starts in the middle, and that's where they are now, in the middle. The Chairman asked if there was anyone who wished to speak in favor of or in opposition to this request. Mr. Knowles moved, seconded by Mr. Eckhardt, to APPROVE PS 79-75 subject to having the Engineer's comments resolved, particularly item #1. Motion carried 4-0. PS 79-76 This request was moved to the end of the agenda since there was no one present to present the request. PS 79-77 APPROVED PS 79-78 APPROVED Request of William E. French for preliminary plat of Lot 2, Block 1, Henry Addition. Request of William E. French for final plat of Lot 2, Block 1, Henry Addition. . Delbert Stembridge, Consulting Engineer, represented Mr. French in his request. He stated the property is presently zoned Page 4 P & Z Minutes October 25, 1979 . Commercial and Mr. French now wants to plat the property. Mr. Stembridge stated he had received the Engineer's letter and they take no exceptions, but Mr. French would like to sign a covenant for the pro rata for the future street improvement. Mrs. Shaunty asked what this property is to be used for. Mr. Stembridge stated Mr. French plans to sell it to Elmer Allison. Mr. Anderson stated it would be used for a maintenance storage facility. The Chairman asked if there was anyone who wished to speak in favor of or in opposition to these requests. Mr. Eckhardt moved, seconded by Mrs. Nash, to APPROVE PS 79-77 subject to the Engineer's comments. Motion carried 4-0. . Mr. Eckhardt moved, seconded by Mrs. Nash, to APPROVE PS 79-78 subject to the Engineer's comments. Motion carried 4-0. PZ 79~40 APPROVED Request of Winn-Dixie Texas, Inc. to rezone a portion of Lot 1, North Park Plaza Addition, from its present classification of Local Retail to a proposed classification of Local Retail- Specific Use-Sale of Beer for off-premise consumption. This property is located on the northeast corner of Rufe Snow Drive and Watauga Road. Mr. Buddy Oujesky represented Winn-Dixie in their request. He stated they wnated to be able to sell beer. Mr. Anderson stated he had them to sharply define by metes and bounds for the Winn- Dixie only. He stated that he would request the Commission, if they approve this request, they should put it in the motion tnat it will be granted to Winn-Dixie only. The Chairman asked if there was anyone who wished to speak in favor of or in opposition to this request. . Page 5 P & Z Minutes October 25, 1979 . Mr. Knowles moved, seconded by Mrs. Nash, to APPROVE PZ 79-40 with the stipulation that the zoning be granted to Winn-Dixie only. Motion carried 3-1 with Mr. Eckhardt voting against. PZ 79-41 APPROVED Request of Charlie Davidson and Robert Noble to rezone Tract 2A, Abstract 1625, and Lot 4, E120'3, Block M, and Lot N165'23, Block N, Smithfield Addition, from its present classi- fication of Agriculture to a proposed classi- fication of 2F-9-Two Family Dwellings. This property is located on the north side of Main Street just west of Glenann Addition. . Mr. Davidson stated he was kinda subbing for Bob Noble tonight and Mr. Noble subbed for him last month while he was recovering from surgery. He said Mr. Noble's Mother passed away this week or he would have been here. Mr. Davidson stated he might not be up to date as he should be, but he and Mr. Nobles are asking for 2F-9 zoning and hope that the Committee will see fit to give them this zoning. Mr. Davidson stated this is a rather unusual piece of property and its kinda hard to work it out into anything very satisfactory. He said they had asked for Multi-Family zoning last month and got turned down, so they would like to go duplexes because they feel like the area needs the duplexes. In fact, a while ago a fellow said if you get this zoned, let him know and he wants some of the lots. Mrs. Shaunty asked Mr. Davidson if Tract A was not included before. Mr. Davidson stated that was right and they are still leaving out Tract A. Mrs. Shaunty asked Mr. Davidson what they intend to do with it. Mr. Davidson said: "it won't work into any- thing right now and we are going to just sit on it for a while, he guessed." He said they had hoped that they could get it retailed sometime later. Mrs. Shaunty stated in other words, you would come back in to change the zoning on it. . Page 6 p & Z Minutes October 25, 1979 . Mr. Davidson stated that was right, they would come back in for zoning on Tract A whenever they can work out something that looks like it might be feasible for it. The Chairman asked if there was anyone who wished to speak in favor of or in opposition to this request. . Tony Skurr stated he was one of the residents of Glenann that lives further than 200 feet from the proposed rezoning area. He said he represents quite a few of the homeowners that live outside the 200 ft. area and Larry Blalock is here to represent those who live within the 200 ft. area. Mr. Skurr said: "I would like to commend the homeowners of Glenann Addition for showing up, for their actions and support in our attempt to preserve the character of our neighborhood. This maintenance of the neighborhood character is our prime concern and our goal. We are against the proposed rezoning request for several reasons. One concern is the placement of a high density project at or near the entrance of one of the two accesses to our area. The term "High density" is a debatable one, one based on a set of numbers assigned by a governmental agency. When it comes to the numbers game, we homeowners feel that our collective judqement is just as good as some faceless bureaucrats. Additionally, we homeowners suspect that we are being fed only a portion of a plan that will eventually give that triangular area, bounded by Amundson Drive, Amundson Street, and Main Street, a mixture of duplexes and commercial businesses. We believe our fears are justified by the fact of the exclusion of Tract A from the rezoning request. We wonder what other plans, what other'requests for rezoning are in store for that area if this rezoning request is approved. It makes sense to us that the property owners west of the proposed rezoning would want to take advantage of any precedent setting action. In this regard, the results of previous rezoning for duplexes in the triangle area indicates the conspicuous absence of pride in home ownership. The ground maintenance of these units vividly presents the expected de- terioration of the present neighborhood standards with the addition of more duplexes. Another reason for the homeowner's attitude against this . Page 7 P & Z Minutes October 25, 1979 . rezoning request is the anticipated increase in traffic congestion on Main Street where the student-pedestrian traffic and the vehicle traffic are already recognized safety problems. It was pointed out at the last Commission meeting that the congestion that takes place daily could be partially relieved with the placement of a traffic light and the widening of Davis Blvd. It was also noted that there are no funds available for these improvements. No one on either side of this rezoning issue can say that the addition of 70 cars, coming out of the only exit of that project will do anything but add to the safety problem. If there were to be a call for emergency vehicles during the morning rush of students and cars, the results could be disasterous. At last month's commission meeting one of your members stated that he normally makes up his mind on rezoning requests prior to the meeting. At first brush, it appeared that the 120 home- owners present were being ignored, but in retrospect, we feel that it is your responsibility to visit the areas in question and to make a judgement that will be in the best interest of the community. We feel that your judgement should also be tempered by the opinions of about 250 homeowners in the Glenann Addition whose homes and land are assessed at 5.1 million dollars. Our investment and our commitment to home owner- ship was based on the character and physical make up of the area. Attempts to so drastically alter this neighborhood character appears as a breach of trust that we have in City Planning. At last month's meeting, the representative of the proposed rezoning request asked: "What do you want built there?1I The answer was and still is more single dwelling units. To do so would be a natural and complimentary extension of the present neighborhood. This idea is submitted to the Commission as the only viable alternative that would allow a reasonable profit for the developer, contribute insignificantly to the traffic problems, and not disrupt the continuity of the neighborhood's present character. Thank you for your attention. II . . Larry Blalock said: III live in the Glenann Addition immediately across from the property in question. And 1"m not an elected spokesman for the people within 200 ft., but I have tried, I have just got a copy of the list of people who got the letters, yesterday, and I've tried Page 8 P & Z Minutes October 25, 1979 . to contact them. It's been kinda hard because some of them don't have any listing in the phone book and some of the addresses are not in the Glenann Addition. The first 2 are apparently corporations, and I wasn't able to contact them. I was able to contact approximately 10 to 11 people, my wife contacted a couple of those. Everyone we contacted were in opposition to this rezoning. Mike Bowman was sent 2 letters because he has 2 houses and they were sent to the houses, which are rent property, and I talked to Mike Bowman today and he did not get the letters. He never got them because, I guess the people renting the property discarded them. II Mrs. Shaunty stated it looks like if those were rent houses, the letters would go to him being he is the taxpayer, or is he just leasing them for somebody. Mrs. Calvert stated she has to go by what the city tax records show, and that is where the letters are sent. She said she is sorry, but that is all she has to go on. . Mr. Blalock said: IIThey were sent to the residences, but I talked to him today and he is in opposition to it. Also, Tommy Abbott and apparently his father got 2 of the letters. I talked to Tommy just before I came over here today, he's a medical doctor, I'm sure you have heard of him, and he's in opposition of it, and his father is in opposition if it. He has written a letter to City Hall, and I don't know who he specifically sent it to, but he stated he is in opposition of it, and if it is approved, he will get a lawyer and fight the rezoning. One of the letters was sent to the Birdville Ind. School Dist. because of the junior high across the street, and I kinda doubt that it would of gotten to anyone in a responsible position that would come to a meeting. So, this effectively brings the list down somewhat if you el iminate these. II Mrs. Shaunty asked Mr. Blalock if these are the ones within 200 ft. Mr. Blalock said they were. . Mrs. Shaunty asked if any he contacted are here tonight. Page 9 p & Z Minutes October 25, 1979 . Mr. Blalock said: "Yes, I know their number and you can request that later. I guess thats all. I oppose this and I think the majority of these people do. II . Ron Murdock 8725 Irongate, said: III am in opposition of this rezoning. As the gentle- man up here in the beginning said, this is an unusual piece of property and rather undesir- able. We are not looking forward to the type of transit traffic that Multi-Family dwellings would afford this neighborhood. We don't look forward to the saturation, naturally, that Multi-Family dwellings would offer this area. And, oh, I would like to ask the same consideration be given their request as would be mine if I was asking, to say, rezone the airport there, Manghum Field, a classification that would alter the surrounding environment as that would. And what 111m saying is that we would like to see some continuity remain in that area as for as the zoning goes. We don't want to see the city services that we receive deluted. The quality of those services. Last of all, I just would like to say that just having moved here a couple of months ago, I gave it a great deal of consideration in planning to choose that area, and again, we would just like to see the continuity of the neighborhood remain there. I think again it would delute the quality of our education, specifically in that junior high school and the surrounding elementary school. I just don't think that it would be in the best interest of the citizens that live in that area. And I think this is what your jobs are-to look out for our best interests and we have to put that trust in you. II Mr. Blalock said: III just want to add one thing, one of the 19 letters was returned undelivered also. II Mrs. Shaunty asked if he knew who it was to. Mr. Blalock said: IIMichael W. Allen.1I Mrs. Shaunty said we might ought to check the records on that. . Mrs. Calvert stated she did and the tax office still shows that information. Page 10 p & Z Minutes October 25, 1979 . Alice Williams said: "111m a resident of Glenann Addition. I want to speak on behalf of a few people on my street that are very much in opposition to multi-dwelling homes even if they are duplexes, in our area be- cause we do not have very much access in and out of Glenann Addition. We have Simmons Street and Main Street which makes it very difficult getting to and from work and other places. Also, we moved there to get away from the Watauga area which are mostly .rent homes. The deterioration of the areas are somewhat bad and we moved into Glenann hoping to be an area that would grow and people would take pride in their homes, and I feel that duplexes would be rent property that people would not take care of it as well as homeowners. II . Mrs. Shaunty asked Mr. Davidson if he proposes these duplexes to be owner occupied or does he plan to sell them. Mr. Davidson stated that about the only type of financing available now for duplexes are owner occupied where the owner lives on one side and rents the other side. Mr. Anderson stated that he doesn't believe that Mr. Davidson is in a position to guarantee this. Mr. Davidson stated that there was no way they could guarantee this, if there is any other type of financing available, he'd be happy to find some, but right now that is all that is available. The Chairman asked if there was anyone else who wished to speak. . Robert Murkey, 6532 Sherry Lane, said: "I 1m against this rezoning because we already have 3 examples of what these are going to bring. Those 2 duplexes that were built last year. I drive by them every morning and they are already looking like a mess. They have done nothing to the lawns, they don't even want to chop the weeds down. I don't see where this is going to be beneficial to the homeowners in the area already. I think that if they wanted to make this a Multi- Family unit they should have started with Page 11 p & Z Minutes October 25, 1979 . Multi-family units, then built these homes later and then tried to sell them to us with 30 year mortgages on their homes. II Ron Murdock said: III would like to ask a question. Before decisions are made of this nature, are present conditions of like pro- perty checked by the Board Members or the rezoning Committee members before consideration? There is a couple of duplexes that are presently there and as the gentleman just noted, the bad condition that they are in and the lack of maintenance that they receive. I think that you should see that. II Mrs. Shaunty stated that usually they go to look at the surrounding area that borders the property in question, but would have to admit that this time, she failed to look at that, but did last time. She asked if any other member checked this out. They had. . Mr. Murdock said: IIWe would like to have that consideration. II Charlene McKeever, 6433 Simmons, said: III have a question, 111m a little confused, there has been talk about Davis Blvd. What are the plans. The last session, we talked about traffic lights. A traffic light would help, but it still would not cut down on the traffic thats going down Davis and Main." Mr. Anderson stated that right now, the current plans call for the widening of Davis Blvd. to 7 lanes up to Emeral Hills Way. Mrs. McKeever asked: IIWhats the time limit on that?" . Mr. Anderson stated that we are in the process of moving the utilities for that project right now and the contract should be let for the street in the month of February. That will take it up to Emerald Hills. He said he knows that is not very far. Two of those 7 lanes will probably be for parking lanes. There is obviously no requirement for 7 lanes particularly when you are going to transition down to 2 lanes. Mr. Anderson said, hopefully, Page 12 P & Z Minutes October 25, 1979 . in the future it will be widened all the way out, but when that is going to happen depends largely on how many federal funds are made available and how much the city can supplement these funds. Not for the feasible future is it going to be widened any further than Emerald Hills Way. . Mrs. McKeever said: "Well, I think this is one problem. We live right on the corner of Simmons and Main and with the duplexes with all the traffic filtering out on Main, there are only 3 ways to go. You can go down Davis, come down Simmons, or go all the way to Crane. In the mornings and afternoons during the school time, we have terrific traffic problems, its hard for us to get out of our driveways. And with adding the duplexes with this many more people its going to really make it more complicated for us to get around in our neigh- borhood and get out. I don't know if you '_ve driven down Crane Road or the airport road lately, but they are in terrible condition. So if we were to put this many more people trying to go out Davis, even with the traffic light, there's still going to be all these people coming from Stoneybrooke and all the areas out there. II Mr. Anderson asked how many people do you think we're talking about. Mrs. McKeever said: IIWell, isn't there some- thing like 30 to 40 units?1I Mr. Anderson stated there would be 34 units. Mrs. Mc Keever sa i d : IIvJe 11 , what I s the occupancy rate, about 2 something?1I Mr. Anderson stated it varies, but he imagined in duplexes it would be around 2.5 some of which are children. Mrs. ~1cKeever said: IIOK-at least 1 or 2 cars per each one. II Mr. Anderson stated at least 2 per unit. . Mrs. McKeever said: "Sometimes even more. So that's a lot of traffic. Plus the schools, they are going to be adding on to the schools, Smithfield Jr. High, that's more people Page 13 P & Z Minutes October 25, 1979 . coming in to bring their children. So we are really concerned. Like on Simmons, its just a thoroughfare through there all the time and there are a lot of children. I think thats one thing we are concerned about. The children going to school, the children thats one thing we are concerned about. The children going to school, the children that live in the neighborhood adding so many more cars without any additional outlets is really causing a traffic problem in our area. II . Dennis Denson, 6524 Riddle Dr., said: III represent around 6 families that were at the last meeting but were unable to make it to- night. I just want to reitirate what has already been said. The main thing is the traffic problem. As everyone has mentioned, Davis Blvd., but also there is only 2 ways into that neighborhood. The back route down Precinct Line Road, and its really unbearable now because I guess other developments or additions up and down Davis Blvd. are using the back route also. 111m against the apart- ments for the main reason, traffic problems, and also the congestion of people there and also if you stop and think about the tax dollars, we have homes in there anywhere from $55,000 to $70,000, probably. Tax dollars that we Ire paying on that, you get $90,000 duplexes in there and cut the taxes in half. All of our tax dollars are being diluted for their same use as the homeowners there. Also, I've just noticed back about a mile on this side of our addition, there is a 15 acre tract that has been zoned for Multi-Family use on Davis Blvd. which would have a bearing on access to our addition. That's my main contention is the traffic problem and also there's just a heavy density of people in that area. Mrs. Shaunty asked Mr. Anderson if there are any plans to do any widening on Main Street. Mr. Anderson stated that Main St. is already quite wide, it is at thoroughfare width right now. He said he believes it's 41 ft. back of curb to back of curb on Main St. so it is very wide. . George Richardson, 8401 Main St., right on the corner of the proposed property, said: Page 14 p & Z Minutes October 25, 1979 . "I have only 2 things to add that I don't think has been mentioned. The facilities at the Jr. High school are used nearly 24 hours a day now by people after school. There's Junior football, baseball. I've even seen them play some adult ball out there and when all of this is taking place, and traffic out there during this period of time, normally these people don't bother me because I think 11m out of the area, but the traffic gets down to 1 lane and almost no lane during this period of time. In other words, if you come through there with anything over a standard vehicle, youlve g : a problem. Even my pickup won't come down there sometimes. With students, kids, small kids, running across the street its really a bad situation. Now I do have one question that relates not only to our area, but the total overall picture. Its our water problem. I want to touch on this one more time. I'm aware that North Richland Hills has tried to buy from Hurst through Tarrant County Jr. College system a considerable amount of water, like in the hundreds of thousands of gallons per day, if I'm not mistaken. I cannot give an exact quote but this originally was brought up for the apartment complex which is going in across the street directly to the south of the NE campus. What is going to happen when we have all of those apartments and then we're adding on out in our area and we're going to be back in the same hole again, aren't we9 without water. Well, I guess what my concern was not only that, but with us adding on and on, there have been conversations that the council was going to cut back on new construction until at such time you were capable of supplying water. . . Mr. Anderson stated that was correct and they have done so. There is a limitation in force at this time. Not more than 10 permits per builder per month and only 100 apartment units to be constructed between now and when the TRA is complete. So you are talking about 200 apartment units, multi-family type units, between now and 1982 or 1983. So that is a severe limitation on construction. But, Mr. Anderson said that the city is not just rely- ing totally on that. We have contractors work- ing right now removing bottlenecks around the Page 1 5 P & Z ~1i nutes October 25, 1979 . system. He said he thinks everyone realizes that there is plenty of water. There is no problem with the water, it's just that the lines are too small and we just can It pack it through those small lines, so we are in the process of removing those bottlenecks. Mr. Anderson said he was not here a year ago last summer when it got pretty grim around here. But he did not think anyone went with- out water this summer, it wasn't even necessary to put any restrictions on in terms of water usage. ~~r. Richardson said: "Well, I think that's what everyone's concerned about as far as water is concerned is-oh, we've got out of it now, or we're getting ready to stick our- selves right back into the same hole we came out of. II . Mr. Anderson stated he believed that the changes that have been made to the oioinq system are going to be quite beneficial, but said he was not in any position to give any guarantees. He said he wasn't sure what would happen if we had a prolonged drought next summer. Mr. Richardson said: "We're not talking about that type of thing, I don't think. I think what we're talking about is over loading ourselves. With those apartments, if they do not get the approval by Tarrant County Jr. College to supply them with water, then will North Richland Hills pick up the ball and carry it or what happens there or do they sit there with dry wells?" Mr. Anderson stated the apartments that you are referring to are really different apart- ments. The apartments that we have approached Tarrant County Jr. College on are the apart- ments immediately to the west of the ones you see under construction. ~1r. Richardson said: Ills it down there where the brush and everything is down there on the corner?1I . Mr. Anderson stated that it is the Kanter property, immediately west of University Plaza. Thats where they wanted to build ~ Page 16 P & Z Minutes October 25, 1979 . apartments and we said we don't have the water for them and they said what if they can get the water from Hurst, would North Richland Hills have any objections. Mr. Anderson stated the Haystack apartments and University Plaza apartments are slated for North Richland Hills water. The lines are quite large in that area and there shouldn't be any type of problem. Mr. Richardson said: IIThats what I wanted to clarify because I knew there was a large quanity of construction going on. And I understand thats directly behind all of thät. I quess what you Ire talking about, new con- struction in that area was designated as to be apartment conplexes. Is that correct?1I . Mr. Anderson stated that part of it is zoned Multi-Family and part of it is zoned Local Retail. Theoretically, you can build Multi- Family apartments in Local Retail zoning. But nobody is going to build apartments in the City of North Richland Hills other than the 100 units between now and next June or July, then there can be another 100. Mr. Anderson said the size of this project is so small that it is simply not economic. So in effect, you might say that there's not going to be much apartment construction in this city. Mr. Anderson stated that they may build Local Retail, but they are not going to build apart- ments unless we figure out someplace to get some more water. Mr. Richardson said: "Thank you. II David Rose, 8400 Donna Dr., said: "I live directly across the street from the recently constructed duplexes. I was here last year in opposition to the rezoning of that property at the time. My statement is that I'm opposed to this rezoning proposal. I look out my dining room window at least twice a day. At breakfast and at dinner, and I see a pile of rubbish that was put there by the contractor, I suppose, and it has been there for several months. II Mrs. Shaunty asked Mrs. Calvert to make a note of this and have it checked out. . Page 17 P & Z Minutes October 25, 1979 . Mr. Rose said: IIput in there the johnson grass is as high as the podium. II Mr. Anderson stated they can be cited for that and we will look into it. Mrs. Shaunty told the audience that when things like this happens, to call the city and they will send an inspector out and then send them a notice and give them a certain number of days to clean it up or they will be fined. Bill Gragg, 6520 Collard Ct., said: III'd like to say that these people have stated their feelings rather well tonight and I agree with them. I have 1 question for Mr. Anderson. I had a discussion with him here not too long ago, and he mentioned that the drainage in that area was not so good. Is this going to add to that problem?1I Mr. Anderson stated the proper answer has to be that he is not sure because he has not got to study the contour lines in detail. . Mr. Gragg said: IISince you and I discussed that I"ve looked at it. It appears to me as though it wi 11 . II Mr. Anderson stated one of the major flood plains in North Richland Hills goes through that subdivision, Walker Branch. Mr. Gragg said: "Yes, that's what you were saying, and that concerns all of us, 111m sure. And to add to it. II Mr. Anderson stated he would imagine that any water flow out of that subdivision would probably be on Main St. The serious problem as you probably are aware, is between Main and the railroad where it gets severe. Mrs. Shaunty asked Mr. Anderson if Amundson would ever be opened up to the south. Mr. Anderson stated he was not sure, he would have to consult the Master Plan and he doesn't have a copy here tonight, but he rather doubted it. . Page 18 P & Z Minutes October 25, 1979 . Mrs. Shaunty stated it sure would alleviate some of the problem. Dennis Dudson said: IISpeaking of drainage problems, I noticed those 2 duplexes that are there right behind them between the railroad tracks there is a culvert coming under the railroad tracks with a big drain- age deal there. I don't know if that will have to be all along that road there be- cause of the drainage. Cause evidently there is a drainage problem around the duplexes. They did build a big drainage deal up behind the duplexes cause a big old culvert comes up behind the road there right at the back door of the duplexes. And if you don't watch there, its really going to be a concentration of water right there at the drainage. II Mrs. Shaunty stated the Engineer1s comments didn't say it would create a drainage problem on his comments regarding the preliminary plat. . Mr. Anderson stated he believes the reason he hasn't commented is a big problem depends on your point of view of it. If it gets in your back door, its a big problem. He said he thinks what he's saying here by not com- menting on it is that the amount of the area is so small that the maximum contribution, even if at the 100 year flood rates, couldn't be more than 17 cubic feet per second. Some- thing like that would be the maximum con- tribution to the flooding, and that's only got the chance of occuring 1% of any given year. Mr. Anderson stated that if the runoff from the area were designed to all go to the back of the property, he would imagine at least half of it would come to Main Street and probably would add about 8 cubic feet per second at the 100 year flood rate. He said if we get the 100 year flood in that particular area, he doubts if you would notice it because there would be so much water on you anyway, it would probably be going into your house. Mr. Anderson stated that this 6 point something acres could possibly contribute 6 or 8 cubic feet a second, which is only minor. The Chairman closed the public hearing and the Commission members discussed this request. . Page 19 P & Z Minutes October 25, 1979 . Mr. Knowles moved, seconded by Mr. Eckhardt, to APPROVE PZ 79-41 as requested. Motion carried 3-1 with Mrs. Nash voting against. Mrs. Shaunty told Mr. Davidson that although this is only a recommendation to the Council and these people will be going to the Council stating exactly what they have stated here, we just wanted you to know that there is no way that this Board will ever go along with any type of Commercial on Tract A. She said you've got a preliminary plat fdr the next item, would you like to hold up on it and come back in with Tract A platted with 2F-9. Mrs. Shaunty stated she just wants Mr. David- son to understand that we are strictly against any Commercial or Local Retail coming in on that corner. . Mr. Davidson said: III appreciate that, but really what we got into was that little corner was going to cost us another street in there. The only thing that we could come up with now. We've had engineers working on this. We can't come up with anything without putting in another street in there to take care of that unless we make some awful large lots. Mrs. Shaunty stated maybe they could back them up to that and have a nice corner greenery. Mr. Davidson said: "Originally we had planned on four plexes only in that particular area because we were going to build kind of a boulevard type of thing in there so that we could do that. And thats where we wanted the fourplexes with duplexes on the rest of the area because that would put them in a much larger lot. That was the original plan, then whenever we got turned down on that particular zoning, we came back and we don't know what to do wi th Tract A. II Mrs. Shaunty asked Mr. Davidson if he would like to take this plat back and rework it. She said it was strickly up to him, but she just wanted him to understand that if later he wanted to come back in to zone Tract A to Local Retail or Commercial, the Commission would be against it. . Page 2 0 P & Z Minutes October 25, 1979 . Mr. Davidson said: 'I I can understand your thinking on that and you would approve the zoning, but subject to a plat change, is that correct?'1 Mrs. Shaunty stated what the Commission is saying is that they will approve the zoning because Tract A is in the zoning for 2F-9, but if someday you don't develop it, and you come back in and want Tract A zoned for Local Retail or Commercial, we will not go along with that. She asked Mr. Davidson if he wanted to hold up on the platting and see what you can do to rework it. Mr. Anderson stated that Mr. Davidson does not have the ownership of that little triangle where the duplexes are sitting now, so he doesnlt have any access into that tract. He couldn't do anything with it if he wanted to at this point and time. Mr. Anderson stated that it is really dead spack and the lot is too wide for one street and as he pointed out it is too narrow for 2 streets. It's a real problem, an awkward piece of land. . Mr. Davidson said: "We have had engineers working on it, but they haven't come up with anything. II Mr. Anderson stated it is essentially dead at this point and time. If he wants to do anything with it in the future, he will have to come back in and request a zoning change. Mr. Davidson said: IIAt this point and time, we don It know what we are going to do with it. II The Chairman stated to the people involved in this case, it will be heard by the council on December 10th at 7:00 P.M. Ron Murdock said: "I would like to ask a question. He can you in good faith make this recommendation when you said in your statement a while ago that rezoning of this Tract A would further add to the problems that exist now. II . Mrs. Shaunty stated that the Commission doesn't feel that Tract A is an appropriate place for Local Retail or Commercial. Page 21 P & Z Minutes October 25, 1979 . Mr. Murdock said: "But you said this would add to the problem. You admitted we have problems. Why would you want to further complicate them. II Mrs. Shaunty stated she thinks there are traffic problems out there and there is always going to be. She said we are never going to be able to get rid of the traffic. Mr. Murdock said: IIHhy add to it? \~hy would you take the preference or side with a developer that would only enhance his profits?" Mrs. Shaunty stated the Commission turned down Multi-Family on the last request. She said they came through last month wanting Multi-Family only because he wanted a few in there that were going to be Multi-Family. She said he could of turned around and sold it to somebody and they could come in with Multi-Family on the whole thing. . Mr. Murdock said: IIYou are basing your statement relatively on what happened before. 11m just stating my point of view relative to what welre living in now. And all I was saying is, why further complicate our lives out there. You're putting the profits of a developer ahead of the people that live in thi s communi ty. II Mr. Knowles stated the Commission understands the problems the people have out there be- cause he said he has to go to work out there every day. Several in the audience asked why he voted for it, then. Mr. Anderson asked for order. . ,AI. , Mr. Knowles said he would like to answer that if they would listen. He said this Board feels like we certainly have an obligation to listen to the homeowners. He said he could assure them that had they not been here last time, we would have voted for Multi-Family. He said the land has to be used someway. He said the Commission does not only consider the local community, that is Glenann, Page 22 p & Z Minutes October 25, 1979 . but we also consider the best use for this property in relationship to the City of North Richland Hills. And it is the view of this Board that this land is not suitable for single family dwellings. He said it would not be fair to you to put in Multi- Family dwellings, and we realize you don't think it's fair to put 2 family dwellings, but the Commission feels like that IS the best use for that land consideraing the pro- blems that exist there now and the problems that might exist with other zoning. That is how the Board based their decision. Mr. Murdock said: IIThat's the best use----, it's in the best interest of the developer, not the people that live there. II Mr. Knowles stated the best use might have been for Multi-Family dwellings. . Mr. Murdock said: IIRight then you just said and add to the problems we have now. That's 2 people that have admitted that we have problems traffic wise and still the decision reflects just something that would promote further prob 1 ems. II Mr. Knowles stated that if you put single family dwellings there, you are going to add to the problems you have now also. Mr. Murdock sa i d : liTe 11 me about it. II Mrs. Shaunty told the people to go to the Council and the Council will have all the minutes of our meeting, and the Council members will read everything that has gone into the minutes. Mr. Murdock said: IIWell, wait a minute, why don~t we just settle it now where they don't have to. II . Mrs. Shaunty stated it has been settled. The Board has made a recommendation, but it is strictly a recommendation to the Council. they go by what they feel like after listening to everybody like we did. She said it was said last time, our minds are made up. Mrs. Shaunty stated that a lot of times we don't even know what they are going to do with the Page 23 p & Z Minutes October 25, 1979 . property. She said just like the one we asked about earlier. They said they were going to build a storage yard to store stuff, etc. The Commission doesn't know a lot of times what they are going to do with it, because many things can go under a certain type of zoning. Mrs. Shaunty stated that is why when they come up here, we listen to what they are going to do. She said the Board felt like 2F-9 was the highest and best use for this land. Mrs. Shaunty stated that there were some duplexes in the city that are very nice, some of Sandlins are 200 sq. ft., with the garage in the back, and rear entry to the yards. They are very attractive to the area in Holiday Heights. She said this is why the Commission voted for this, but it is strictly a recommendation, we are not telling the council what to do. Mrs. Shaunty said that when someone has some land they are paying taxes on, they do have the right to come in and ask for something to be done to it. Some lady in the audience said they pay taxes, too. . A man in the audience asked if the minutes will contain the things that has happened here. Mrs. Shaunty stated that the minutes go to all the Council Members. The man said: II I wonder if it \\lill contain the lividity' with ~hich Mr. Eckhardt and Mr. Kno\^!les considered the property in .que.stio_n. They thought it was practically hilarious over there." Mr. Knowles said he objected to that. The Chairman said 'she didn't .think we are getting anywhere with this, this needs to be taken to the Council. Mr. Murdock said: III think somebody, some- where is bought and paid for. I don It know who it is." Mr. Anderson said: IISir, I thoroughly resent that and if you make that charge again, I will take you to court. Do you hear me?" . Page 24 P & Z Minutes October 25, 1979 . Mr. Davidson said: "I never saw ~1r. Anderson before tonight. II Mr. Anderson said: IIHhat you've said slanders everyone sitting at this table, and sir, that is against the law. II Mr. ~1urdock said: "I apoligize for that. I still don't think the Board is acting in the best interest of the citizens in the city.11 Mrs. Shaunty said then that's what you need to tell the Council. It will go into the minutes. Mr. B 1 a 1 0 c k sa i d : II May I ask 1 que s t ion. What is the purpose of sending out the 19 letters?" Mrs. Shaunty said they were to notify the people to come up here. Mr. Blalock said: IIWhy? If it doesn't make any difference. II . Mrs. Shaunty stated that it does make a difference. One voted against it and 3 voted for it. Mr. Blalock said: IILast time you asked how many people got the letters are here. This time you didn't. I think you would have found more. II Mrs. Shaunty stated it was the same amount that got them this time. Mr. Blalock said: IIThats right, the same amount got them, but I think you would have found out that there was more here this time than last time if you would have asked before they all 1 eft. II Mr. Eckhardt stated that if they hadn-t come last time, we might have passed the Multi-Family zoning. Mr. Blalock said: IIShe said last time that she had decided before she came in that she was going to do that. II . Mrs. Shaunty stated she did not say that. f3age 2 5 p & Z Minutes October 25, 1979 . Mr. Eckhardt stated that what was said was, when he came in the door at night, he had looked at his packet either during the week before, and most of the time, he at least looks back through it sometimes Thursday to familiarize himself with it. He said he tries to go out and look at the piece of property so that when he walks through that door, he can have on his mind a particular way he will probably vote. Mr. Eckhardt said that more times than not, his mind has been changed after either someone has made a presentation, or someone objects. He said he could not just walk in here without know- ing what direction he's heading, but that does not mean that his mind is totally made up. Mrs. Shaunty said that you never know what they are going to do with the property. That's why we ask them what they are going to do with it. It goes into the records. Mr. Blalock said: IIRight, but I recall last time you said that after you drove through the property, you decided you'd turn it down. I believe you can check the minutes. II . Mrs. Shaunty said: "I didn't say that. I said there was a traffic problem but I didn't say that. II Mr. Blalock said: III was thinking you did.11 Mrs. Shaunty stated she did say that if they would bring it back through for 2F-9, she might consider it. PS 79-73 APPROVED The Chairman said they would now take up the preliminary plat of this property. Request of Charlie Davidson and Robert Noble for preliminary plat of Glenann Addition, 5th Filing. Mrs. Shaunty asked Mr. Davidson if he had any- thing else to add to this. Mr. Davidson stated he did not. . Tony Skurr said: liOn that particular layout that is being submitted for consideration, I feel that having a cul-de-sac there with one Page 26 p & Z Minutes October 25, 1979 . entrance and and exit right in the middle of Main Street for all that congestion in the morning, putting the kids at Smithfield Jr. High school and the elementary school there in jeopardy. I think if the developers want to save dollars, it shouldn't be at the expense of those kids or at the expense of the frustrations of all the people that have to use that road to go to work. I think the Commission here should request that they go back and find a way to develop that area where there is equitable distribution of the traffic there. All of them coming out the same time everybody is coming out thats going to mingle with the kids and its going to create a heart- ache, probably a disaster. II Mrs. Shaunty asked Mr. Davidson if he could add anything to that. Mr. Davidson said: liThe more streets you have, the more traffic problems you have, Correct?1I . Mrs. Shaunty stated that she can see that he is trying to contain it more by having a cul-de-sac. Mr. Davidson said: IIYes, we are trying to contain it. The gentleman here says its going to add to his problem, but itls going to help his problem because if we put 2 streets there then he's going to have to worry about 2 lanes of traffic coming out instead of one. We felt that the best thing to do was to put the one street in there and the other thing is, the way the property is laid out, what else are you going to do with it. Someone in the audience said why not make a street out to Amundson Drive. ~1r. Davidson said: IIThen everybody in Glenann is going to jump up and down even more, be- cause we are putting traffic right out in the mi ddl e of Gl enann. II Mrs. Shaunty said they're talking about Amundson Drive. . Page 2 7 p & Z Minutes October 25, 1979 . Mr. Knowles asked Mr. Davidson to come up to the podium. There was discussion between the Board, Mr. Anderson, and Mr. Davidson. Mrs. Shaunty told the audience that the Commission realizes now that when he was talking that he said those lots that back up will have rear entry garages and have about 2000 sq. ft. floor space. She said we talked about if that street was going to permanent or not and if he had to pay the pro rata for the whole length of Amundson Road, and we found out that it's not going to be a permanent road and they are going to close it. Mrs. Shaunty asked Mr. Anderson if the Engineers were going to work on the Master Plan. That might be a way out. . Mr. Anderson stated that we are in the pro- cess of updating the thoroughfare Master plan right now, but he doesn't know what we are going to do with Amundson Drive. He said that he knows that Amundson Drive where the duplexes are will stay open, but thats all we are sure of. It's that part that goes on behind your property that we are not sure of. Mr. Davidson said: liThe guy that built the duplexes next door, there's nothing we can do about him, just like there's nothing you can do about your neighbors. If we leave trash, there's nothing you can do to us. Hopefully, we're not going to do that, at least we don't plan to. The Chairman asked if there was anyone else that wants to speak. Mr. Skurr said: IIHow can you approve that plan right there? Why can't you, as the Commission, force the staff to do their home- work and make a decision?" . Mrs. Shaunty stated that she believes this is going to fall under the engineers and the city staff as to what is done to that road. It doesn't have anything to do with us, isn't that right? We don't make the decisions on Page 28 p & Z ~1i nutes October 25, 1979 . the roads or anything like that. Mr. Anderson stated that was correct. Thats essentially the staff and the City Council's decisions. A man in the audience said: "You approve plat plans which consists of streets and roads. II Mrs. Shaunty said: "But if the Engineer says we've got a problem...." The man in the audience said: IINow wait a minute. II Dick Berthiaume said: IIOne of your jobs is in addition to approving zoning changes is to approve plats. Right?" Mrs. Shaunty stated that was right. Mr. Berthiaume said: "Alright, plats consist of streets. So you do have control over the way our streets are laid out in our city. II . Mrs. Shaunty stated that we have a city engineer that writes us comments and if he feels theres a problem, we say subject to the Engineer's comments and the Council looks at that. The Engineer is at the meeting, and if there is a problem, it is worked out before they get a permit or anything like that. Mr. Berthiaume said: II Alright, then our dealing is with the City Engineer. 11m sure Mr. Anderson works for....1I Mrs. Shaunty stated he works for the City. . Mr. Berthiaume said: IIThere's one other comment I would like to make. You approved with conditions of one subdivision for Mr. Smith with conditions as far as drainage. I don It think that theres anybody here thats ever been down Amundson, just one block past Amundson Road to see that swamp that we've got sitting right back there. Now I mean literally a swamp. I used to lease the land that Mr. Davidson owns right now, to keep my horses on. When it rained, I had as much as 4 inches of water. And that was Mr. Zarcome ~ P age Z9 P & Z Minutes October 25, 1979 . that I rented from. I'm the one that converted the old backstop for the little league field into stalls. Three or four inches of water when we would get 2 or 3 inches of rain. That land does not drain properly. The last 200 ft. taking from Main St. going toward Amundson, you get the last 200 ft. over there, there is standing water over in that ditch all the way from, I can't remember the gentleman's name, but they all live right there at the edge of Mr. Zarcome's land all the way down to, not Amundson Road or Amundson Street, but the very next street. There's a swamp back there that consists of about 7 acres of land. I leased that at one time and I moved my horses off there because you would have 6,8, or 10 inches of water in that land." Mr. Anderson asked if that was right in the middle of the Walker Flood Channel. . Mr. Berthiaume said: IIRight, but it also comes back up to the land that Mr. Davidson owns now, about 200 ft. You come 200 ft. south of Amundson Road, you have water standing there as much as 3 Qr 4 inches deep anytime you get a rain. And if that isn't a drainage problem. You know there is a drainage problem on that back part of that property. Those 2 duplexes that are sitting there, that one that is sitting on the corner of Amundson Dr. & Amundson Road, has that big drainage ditch there. You can go over there right after a rain and you'll see as much as 15 inches of water standing right there by that culvert. As much as 15 inches of water that has no place to go. II Mr. Anderson stated that in his opinion that is probably why the duplexes have not rented, because of that setting there. Mr. Berthiaume said: "Yes, one of them is rented, one whole is rented, the other one has been setting there ever since, and its empty. Mr. Anderson said: "Wait till it rains. II Mr. Berthiaume said: "That's right. And now you're talking about adding that much more. .You're talking about adding how many more-15 to 17 duplexes. That's a problem. II . Page 30 p & Z Minutes October 25, 1979 . Mr. Anderson stated that was relatively minor, the drainage basin there is hundreds of acres. Mr. Berthiaume said: "When you're talking about 7 acres of land down there setting as a swamp already, and you're talking about 200 ft. across the whole length of Amundson there, 200 ft. deep. That's not a minor problem when you're talking about 3 or 4 inches of water. And I mean that's when you get a moderate rain. These rains we had a couple of months ago, I bet you would of had water that came up over your ankles across that part of the property. And to me that is not a minor problem. Where is that water going to go? Is it going to go back down into the swamp?" Mr. Anderson stated that the drainage basin upstream is probably on the order of about 1000 acres up to the drainage divide. . Mr. Berthiaume said: III'm worried about an 80 x 120 ft. lot. That's what everyone else is worried about, an 80 x 120 ft. lot. We're not worried about 1000 acres, we1re worried about what we have invested in that property right now. II Mr. Anderson said: IIIf you are concerned about a drainage problem, 1"m trying to give you an idea of the magnitude that this 7 acres is going to add to your problem. It's about 1% or less.1I Mr. Berthiaume said: IIThis is why we're here. We are not concerned about a 1000 acres of land somewhere else. We're concerned about 250 houses that sit in the Glenann subdivision and what is this going to do to us. We're concerned about the city, that's why we1re here. We think you're making a mistake in what you're doinq. We think it's wrong in what you're doing. But our main concern is our subdivision. ùur homes, our investments, not 1000 acres that sits on the other side of the railroad track. Later that will be a problem. II . Mr. Anderson stated that it's a problem for you right now because every rain drop that falls there drains down through that subdivision. Page 31 P & Z Minutes October 25, 1979 . Mr. Berthiaume said: "Alright, so now we're adding this much more to it because we're filling in that land. It's got to go somewhere. II Mr. Anderson stated this lot is not in the flood plain. Mr. Berthiaume said: "t~ell, the next time it rains, 11111 be glad to pick you up and take you down there to see it.1I Mr. Anderson stated that all he was saying is that on the Federal Insurance Flood Maps it does not show it to be in the flood plain. How accurate they are, I don1t know. Mr. Davidson said: "We are not going to increase the water flow.1I . Mr. Berthiaume showed Mr. Davidson where the problem would be. Mrs. Nash stated that this is only a recommendation to the City Council and they can turn it down. Mr. Davidson stated he felt the duplexes would be nice enough that they would not be ashamed of them. Herb Hodges stated he has a kid that goes to school there. He said they have a pro- blem now and if we add more traffic and more school children, there would be more danger of accidents. He said the Commission did not seem concerned. Lawrence Flack, 8405 Glenann Drive, said: liThe center of North Richland Hills is right where we are. A railroad crossing there and a Jr. High school. The congestion in 10 years will be terrible." Mr. Knowles moved, seconded by Mrs. Nash, to APPROVE PS 79-73 subject to a more comprehensive study concerning the flood plain and the impact of drainage onto Glenann Addition. Motion carried 4-0. . ~ Page 32 P & Z M,nutes October 25, 1979 . PZ 79-42 APPROVED Request of Charles Reynolds to rezone a portion of Lots 6 & 7, Block B, Richland Oaks Addition, from its present classi- fication of 1F-12-0ne Family Dwellings to a proposed classification of Commercial. This property is located on the East side of Mesa Verde Trail at the intersection of Airport Freeway Service Road. Mr. Reynolds presented his request to the Commission. He stated he was requesting this zoning to Commercial because it is not suitable for residential next to the State Highway. He said that after the Highway Dept. took some of the property, it left this piece of property wedge shaped. Mr. Reynolds stated that eventually, the whole side of the street will become Commercial. It may go peice by piece, but in time, it will all go Commercial. The Chairman asked if there was anyone who wished to speak in favor of or in opposition to this request. . Thomas Snodgrass, 4905 Mesa Verde, stated he owns the property north of the property in question. He said he is opposed to this zoning request. He stated he had lived there for 20 years and does not want it to go Commercial. Mr. Elmer James, 4912 Mesa Verde, stated he owns the property across the street. He said he did not receive a letter, but he is against this zoning request. He stated this property had come up before for rezoning, but was turned down. Mr. James stated he feels this rezoning will mess up this residential area. He said they would not be able to sell their property as residential nor would they be able to sell as Commericla unless all the area goes Commercial. . Robert Chadwell, 4912 Oakridge, stated he was not within 200 ft. of the property in question, but he would like to see something better for this area. He said Mr. Reynolds states he plans to buy this property regardless of the zoning, but that is what he said last time when it was turned down, and he hasn't bought it yet. He stated that at the time they came Page 3 3 P & Z Minutes October 25, 1979 . in for the steak house next to this property, they asked for Bridle Path street to be opened since there is a lot of traffic on Oakridge. Mr. Anderson asked if this was because the frontage road is one way. Mr. Chadwell stated there is a sign stating Oakridge Terrace is a dead-end street, but people don't pay any attention to it. He said the homeowners realize this property has great potential, but if you break it up in small areas, we will never be able to develop the property. No one will buy it. Mr. Anderson stated that if the homeowners would stick around to hear the last item on the agenda, IITransitional Zoning", he believes it would be of interest to them. He stated the Transitional Zoning would be for areas 1 i ke th is. . Mr. Chadwell stated he would appreciate it if the Commission would consider the homeowners view in this matter. Mr. Reynolds stated he has been in the Development business for 15 years, and when you have problem land, the first one to sell opens the door for the other property owners to sell, piece by piece, and the property will go up in price each time, but trying to get several property owners together to do this at one time is almost impossible. Mr. Reynolds said he is in this for a long range investment. He stated he had studied this area, and that all will go Commercial before long. Mr. Chadwell stated that basicly what Mr. Reynolds said is true, but on the south side there are no homes involved, just wide open spaces. But if he changes this zoning, it will hurt the homeowners bad. Mr. Chadwell said Mr. Reynolds can come back in for more and more. He said the church owns the pro- perty now and they are wanting to sell so they can build them a new building. Mr. Chadwell said Northeast Mall did not start out a piece at a time. . Page 34 P & Z Minutes October 25, 1979 . PS 79-76 APPROVED . CONSIDERATION OF TRANSITIONAL ZONING . Mrs. Nash moved, seconded by Mr. Knowles, to APPROVE PZ 79-42 as requested. Motion carried 3-1 with Mr. Eckhardt voting against. Request of Northeast Construction Company for final plat of Holiday West, Section III. Gordon Swift, Consulting Engineer, represented Northeast Construction, Mr. Sandlin and Mr. Hamm, in their request. He stated he had gone over the Engineer's comments with Mr. Anderson and they are in full agreement with all the comments. Mr. Anderson stated he believes they are in agreement with most of the comments, most are minor. Mr. Anderson stated he was happy with the revision of the subdivision con- struction plans and believe it will drain better. He said he feels this will be a good subdivision, but he doesn't believe they agree to all the comments, but he believes we can work them out with them. The Chairman asked- if there was anyone who wished to speak in favor of or in opposition to this request. Mr. Knowles moved, seconded by Mr. Eckhardt, to APPROVE PS 79-76 subject to the Engineer's comments. Motion carried 4-0. Mr. Anderson stated the reason for Transitional Zoning is we have several problem areas such as on Glenview (6 homes), west of the Loop, approximately 6 homes on Davis Blvd., south of Nor East, on Glenview Drive west of Rufe Snow, and on Flory Street. The property is residential, but the proposed use is for Commercial or Retail use. Many are needing to sell. They could sell to a Commercial speculator, but there is the chance they would lose the zoning change, so they discount the price of the land. If the property owner zoned it Commercial, he couldn't live there unless he went before the Zoning Board of Adjustments for a variance, he would have to move out. Mrs. Shaunty asked Mr. Anderson if they were living in the house, couldn't they go ahead and live there. Page 35 P & Z Minutes October 25, 1979 . . Mr. Anderson stated they could not. He said this Transitional Zoning would make it less painful for the homeowner to where he could change the zoning, but still live there in the house until he sold it. Mr. Anderson stated the city could make this zoning available to the people or the city could rezone an area if appropriate hearings are held. He said he doesn't feel the city would have any protest from the property owners, but the people owning the adjoining property might. Mr. Anderson stated that the city will guarantee that as long as the property is used for residential, their taxes would stay residential, but once it is sold, a letter would have to be sent to the Planning and Zoning Dept. The buyer would not have to come in for a zoning change, therefore, he would pay the owner/ seller a higher price for the property. Mr. Anderson stated that if the city has reason to believe a person is running a business in their home, they would be contacted by the city. Once this happens, the taxes would go up. Mr. Knowles asked how the city would go about deciding on the areas to zone. Mr. Anderson stated he would suggest to the Planning and Zoning Commission and the City Council certain areas that needs this zoning. The people would be notified. He stated the first one would be on Glenview where the street widening is. Mr. Reynolds stated he totally agrees with Mr. Anderson regarding the need for the Transitional Zoning. It is the greatest thing for the homeowner, you let him live there, but make the developer pay Commercial prices. Mr. Anderson stated that right now it would control about 6 areas in North Richland Hills. Mr. Chadwell asked if their area is one of these areas. . Mr. Anderson stated it wasn't. He said the underpass structure is so valuable. He said he had talked to several land planners, and they feel this area will be for high-rise offices, hotels, etc. Page 3'6 P & Z Minutes October 25, 1979 . Mrs. Shaunty asked if they thought the property owners could get together and go Commercial. Mr. Anderson stated he would be against the east side of Oakridge going Commercial unless the other side goes Commercial also. Mr. Knowles moved, seconded by ~1r. Eckhardt, to recommend the approval of the Transitional Zoning Amendment. Motion carried 4-0. CONSIDERATION OF DATE FOR THE NOVEMBER MEETING ADJOURN~1ENT The Chairman set the date of the November meeting to November 29, 1979. The meeting adjourned at 10:45 P.M. /Jr¡Ad'<) ~.~ CHAIRMAN, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION . cJ~!Z SECRETARY, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION .