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THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR CALLED MEETING
OF THE BUILDING CODE OF APPEALS
OF THE CITY OF NORTH RICHLAND HILLS, TX.
JANUARY 12, 1988 - 7:00 P.M.
CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Robert Skinner called the meeting to order January 12, 1988, at
7:00 P.M.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT:
ROBERT SKINNER
ORVILLE BAKER
JOE CRANE
ERIC HILL
JOHN LARRIVIERE
MARY NORWOOD
CHAIRMAN
VICE CHAIRMAN
MEMBER
MEMBER
MEMBER
MEMBER
STAFF:
DANNY TAYLOR
BOB WILLIAMS
STEVE PENCE
JUDY BRYANT
DIVISION CHIEF
BUILDING INSPECTOR
FIRE INSPECTOR
SECRETARY
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING DECEMBER 8, 1987
APPROVED
Mr. Skinner moved, Mr.Crane seconded, to approve the minutes of the
December 8, 1987 meeting with the corrections noted.
Motion carried 5-0.
BBA 88-1
APPEAL USING CPVC IN A RESIDENCE
7612 LOLA DRIVE
Mr. Robert Broom spoke on behalf of this appeal. Mr. Broom stated he had
been told when he started the house that CPVC pipe could be used and he
completed the whole plumbing job and had an inspection which was turned
down. The inspector stated that CPVC pipe was not allowed.
Mr. Skinner asked if Mr. Broom was now the owner of the home.
Mr. Broom stated he was the owner.
Mr. Skinner asked if anyone lived in the home.
Mr. Broom stated no one lived there at the present time.
Mr. Williams stated that he had red tagged the house because of the CPVC.
Mr. Broom stated the CPVC was complete in the entire house. To replace it
at this time would mean spending an additional $3000.00 to $4000.00.
Mr. Crane asked Mr. Broom if he was a contractor.
Mr. Broom stated he did remodeling work. He has been in the construction
business for twenty-seven years.
Mr. Baker stated it was his belief that only a homeowner who lived in the
house could do remodeling work to a residence.
Mr. Broom stated he planned to move into the house when the work was
completed.
Mr. Williams stated that he had not discussed the plumbing materials with
anyone at the job site. Mr. Williams stated that on one inspection trip he
was accompanied by Mr. Riney and that Mr. Riney had written a report during
that inspection.
Mr. Skinner stated he would read from the UPC (Plumbing Code) the
requirements: "That nothing in this code shall prevent any homeowner from
installing and maintaining plumbing within his own property boundaries
provided that the work is done by himself or his family. Such privilage
does not convey the right to violate any of the provisions of this code
nor exempting any such property owner from obtaining and paying the
required fee." Section 19-13 says "Alternate methods shall be approved in
accordance with the materials and methods of the plumbing code." In
Section 19-19," Approved materials: Copper tube or water piping shall be
half the weight of not less that type "L" copper. PVC schedule 40 pipe may
be used for the water service line to within two feet of the structure."
These are the three things outlined by Mr. Williams for our interpretation.
Mr. Larriviere stated he thought the problem was an interpretation problem.
That Mr. Broom believed he could use CPVC and the Board was told that CPVC
in not allowed.
Mr. Crane made a motion to uphold the Code and deny the appeal.
Mr. Baker seconded.
Motion Carried 5-0.
BBA 87-9
APPEAL DEMOLITION ORDER
4000 RUFE SNOW DRIVE
Mr. Davis spoke on behalf of Mrs. Gaston. Mr. Davis stated a demoliton
permit had been taken out and all the buildings would be removed. Mr.
Davis requested a thirty day extension to get all the work done. He stated
that he does have a contact, however the contractor does have some previous
commitments.
Mr. Skinner made a motion to uphold the demolition order at this time and
the Board would review this order at the next meeting February 9, 1988.
Mr. Crane seconded.
Motion carried 5-0.
BBA 87-11
APPEAL DEMOLITION ORDER
6708 LITTLE RANCH ROAD
Mr. Taylor stated Mr. Hamilton of First Texas Savings was not able to
attend, however told Mr. Taylor that First Texas was now the property owner
and that permits would be taken out to bring the house back up to code
within the next two weeks.
Mr. Skinner made a motion to review this case again on February 9, 1988 to
make sure Mr. Hamilton and the bank have taken out the proper permits.
Mr. Larriviere seconded.
Motion carried 5-0.
BBA 87-10
APPEAL SECTION 19 - ORDINANCE 1377
6644 GRAPEVINE HIGHWAY
Mr. Croce spoke on behalf of this appeal. Mr. Croce stated he wished to
appeal because of the NFPA Code, UBC and the City Ordinance that he is in
compliance with the code. Furthermore I had a review by an engineering
firm in Dallas and they tell me that I am in compliance.
Mr. Croce stated he had received a letter back in October stating he was in
violation of city ordinance because a Certificate of Occupany had not been
issued for his tenant Blackmon Insurance and Bonding Company. Mr. Croce
stated he wanted to comply with all ordinances however, he did not want to
be penalized unjustly.
Mr. Skinner stated the Board was contesting the fact of there being fire
protection between the occupancies of this building. He asked Mr. Croce
who the current occupants were in the building.
Mr. Croce stated there are two tenants, Blackmon Insurance and the Yellow
Pages of Texas, the rest of the building is empty.
Mr. Skinner asked how old the building was.
Mr. Croce stated he believed 20 to 30 years old and that he had owned it
for the last eight years.
Mr. Skinner asked Mr. Croce what the occupancy classification was for the
building.
Mr. Taylor stated that the Fire Code and the Building Code are different.
The building would be a "B-1" or a "B"-2" classification, under the
Building Code he is a business classification. Each occupancy is
different, we are talking about a City ordinance that requires that
classification.
Mr. Croce stated according to the ordinance which states "Any occupancy
used for business, residential, health, penal, education shall have a fire
rating of not less than one hour. It says occupancy." The definition of
occupancy is the classification of an occupancy. That means that if
I am a business occupancy and go to a manufacturing occupancy that would
mean I had violated the code. Both occupants of the building are office
occupancies. There is nothing else in the building. I contend that I am
not in violation.
Mr. Larriviere stated he believed the question at this stage was "what is
classification of occupancy." He stated that the Board feels that
occupancy meant each individual business or the same type businesses, ie
insurance companies, owned by 10 separate people would be considered 10
separate occupancies.
Mr. Croce stated he had been in five different buildings and all five had
the same situation. He stated he should not be singled out, everyone
should be doing the same thing.
Mr. Baker stated he understood Mr. Croce's problem. The City has a problem
in trying to upgrade any ordinance or any requirement they make because we
have people here that have been here forever. We must pick sometime to
upgrade them and the time that has been picked is the time that a new
occupant moves into the building.
Mr. Croce stated that the fire walls we are requiring would cost him
somewhere in the neighborhood of $20,000.00. He feels that the City is
singling him out and making an unreasonable request.
Mr. Larriviere asked Mr. Croce exactly what the City was asking him to do.
Mr. Croce stated the City wants him to put up firewalls right thru the
ceiling going right to the structure above.
Mr. Skinner stated he believed what the City is requesting is that Mr.
Croce enhance the fire wall in the corridor, from the ceiling to the very
top of the building and to the roof deck and that would be determined as a
fire wall. Mr. Skinner asked if this was correct.
Mr. Taylor stated that a fire resistant structure shall extend from floor
to roof deck.
Mr. Skinner stated that if Yellow Pages of Texas extended the wall it would
effectively separate the two occupancies. By doing just the corridors it
would be separating.
Mr. Croce stated he did not feel that he needed to put fire walls in the
building. He stated this would be a very costly project plus the guy for
the Yellow Pages has told him that he could not have repair or construction
work going on in his office and operate his business.
Mr. Larrivier stated it goes back to the definition of occupancy and that
the City definition was any different individual business constitutes
separate occupanies.
Mr. Skinner stated that if the Yellow Pages moves out or if Mr. Blackmon
moves out Mr. Croce would have no problem it is two or more occupants.
Mr. Croce stated he had stated his case and the decision was up to the
Board.
Mr. Skinner made a motion to uphold Ordinance Section 19, Ordinance 1377
defining occupancy as two separte businesses. Mr. Skinner asked to pause
to ask Mr. Pence when the last on sight inspection of the building had been
done.
Mr. Pence stated he had gone out in November. He did not have the exact
date and went over each item with Mr. Blackmon.
Mr. Skinner read from the plan review that was signed for by Mr. Blackmon,
stating that fire walls were required.
Mr. Taylor stated that the plan reviews are done in the office and the
inspection clerks do try to contact the people to let them know that they
need to come down and sign for them and pick them up.
Mr. Skinner made the motion to uphold Section 19, Ordinance 1377 that the
occupancy of this building at 6644 Grapevine Highway should be supported
with and have according to the ordinance, one hour fire walls in the
building.
Mr. Crane seconded
Mr. Croce stated he wants to know just where the fire walls are required.
Mr. Taylor stated Mr. Croce would need to talk to the plan review
inspector, Mr. Gannon in regard to meeting the requirements.
Mr. Skinner stated if we passed this motion, Mr. Gannon will be out there
to show you the shortest, easiest and quickest way to uphold what in the
fire department view is a fire wall. To add to the motion the fact that
someone will be in contact with Mr. Croce within the next two weeks or
before.
Mr. Croce asked if he had a single tenant in the building then none of the
requirement would have to be met. In other words I would only need to
isolate one of the occupants.
Motion carried 5-0
Mr. Skinner stated another thing he want to express to Mr. Croce was that
this will be reviewed constantly with Mr. Taylor. The Board of Appeals do
follow up on all their cases. We are here to interpretate the Code solely
as the Board of Appeals. We are not experts. Mr. Skinner stated that the
first thing that will happen is Mr. Gannon will contact Mr. Croce, from
that point he will explain where the firewalls are needed, the shortest
quickest way to get it done and what needs to be done in the procedure
thereof. Mr. Gannon will tell you the procedure for obtaining a permit,
etc. etc.
Mr. Croce asked if anyone could get a permit or if you have to be a
contractor here in the City.
Mrs. Bryant stated that the person doing the work must be a bonded
contractor, bonded with the City of North Richland Hills. Anyone can
become bonded, you can bond yourself, as long as an insurance company will
post the bond.
Mr. Croce thanked the board for listening, but stated he was not convinced.
BBA 87-7
APPEAL DEMOLITION ORDER
6237 ONYX DRIVE SOUTH
Mr. Taylor stated Mr. Cain is still trying to get his financing.
Mr. Skinner made a motion to review this case again on February 9, 1988.
A letter is requested to be sent to Mr. Sparks or Mr. Cain stating that
this needs to be resolved prior to the next meeting.
Mr. Larriviere seconded.
Motion Carried 5-0
ELECTION OF VICE CHAIRMAN
Mr. Hill nonimated Mr. Orville Baker
Mr. Larriviere seconded.
Motion carried 4-0.
Meeting adjourned at 8:30 P.M.
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