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THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR CALLED MEETING
OF THE BUILDING CODE OF APPEALS
OF THE CITY OF NORTH RICHLAND HILLS,
TEXAS, SEPTEMBER 8, 1987 - 7:00 P.M.
1.
CALL TO ORDER
Chairman John Larriviere called the meeting to order September 8, 1987
at 7:00 P.M.
2.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT:
JOHN LARRIVIERE
ROBERT SKINNER
ERI CHILL
ORVILLE BAKER
MICHAEL DEAN
CHAIRMAN
MEMBER
MEMBER
MEMBER
MEMBER
STAFF:
DANNY TAYLOR
STEVE PENCE
KEN MILLER
JIMMY BEACH
LISA MILLS
DIVISION CHIEF
FIRE INSPECTOR
CODE ENFORCEMENT
COMMERCIAL INSPECTOR
SECRETARY
3.
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING JULY 14, 1987
APPROVED
Eric Hill moved, seconded by Michael Dean, to approve the minutes of
the July 14, 1987 meeting.
Motion carried 4-0.
4.
BBA 87-6
REQUEST OF JEWEL COR INC. TO APPEAL THE
UNIFORM PLUMBING CODE REQUIREMENT
OF TOILET FACILITIES AT 4200 EDISON DRIVE.
Acting Chairman Robert Skinner called forward the representatives of
Jewelcor Inc.
Gerald Hodges, President of Haws and Garrett, came forward and stated
Mr. Walker of Jewelcor would not be able to attend the meeting. Mr.
Walker asked Mr. Hodges to point out Appendix C makes no provisions
for retail facility.
Robert Skinner read the letter submitted by Jewelcor. He stated the
Board would interpret the Uniform Plumbing Code as they feel is
justified.
Mr. Hodges stated he wanted a decision, he was willing to do whatever
was decided.
Orville Baker stated he did not understand what part of the Code to
interpret from.
Page 2.
Mr. Hodges stated he understood from Mr. Walker, the restrooms were
for the employees and not for the public. Jewelcor did not interpret
this as being a facility that required public restrooms.
Eric Hill asked the difference of Codes between Fort Worth and North
Richland Hills.
Danny Taylor stated he did not know what Building Code Fort Worth was
using.
Jimmy Beach stated there was no difference in the Codes. Fort Worth
has different inspection departments. One person does not do a whole
plan revue.
Orville Baker stated the closest thing he could find for the
requirement is in the category under restaurants, pubs, and lounges.
Gerald Hodges stated the restrooms in this building were in the back
in a storage type area and difficult for the public to get to.
Robert Skinner asked if a person would have to walk through a storage
area to get to the restrooms. He asked Jimmy Beach to explain how he
determined the number of toilet facilities for this building.
Jimmy Beach stated he went by the Uniform Building Code first and
figured the occupant load of 333. He reduced the number to 300 to
even it out. He then looked under Appendix C and split the number in
half which allowed 150 for men and 150 for women. Under the table for
Office Facilities he came up with:
6 toilets for the men
6 toilets for the women
6 lavatories for the men
6 lavatories for the women.
He felt it was excessive, and gave the City 60% on the men's and
women's toilets. He also gave 40% to the City on lavatories. He
explained to Mr. Walker the restrooms were not just for the employees.
Orville Baker moved, Eric Hill seconded, to deny the request of
Jewelcor Inc.
The motion carried 4-0.
5.
REVIEW OF BBA 87-3
REQUEST OF JERRY P. BIRDWELL TO APPEAL THE ORDER OF
DEMOLITION AT 3920 RUFE SNOW DRIVE.
Robert Skinner called forward the representative of the appeal.
Jerry P. Birdwell came forward and turned on his tape recorder.
Robert Skinner stated the Fire and Building Inspectors were on Mr.
Birdwell's premises the present day and did Mr. Birdwell recieve a
copy of their report.
Mr. Birdwell stated he had a copy.
Page 3.
Robert Skinner asked Steve Pence if he had written a new report or
reviewed the report dated 7-16-87.
Steve Pence stated he had reviewed the report of 7-16-87.
Robert Skinner asked who was present at the building on the present
day.
Steve Pence stated Mrs. Birdwell, Ken Miller, and himself were
present.
Orville Baker asked if the listing from July 16, 1987 was the final
list.
Steve Pence stated yes.
Mr. Birdwell stated he agreed to having a final list made and he would
do his best to comply with the items. He stated the Code Enforcement
Officer told him once he had completed the list then Mr. Birdwell
would have the Code Enforcement to deal with.
Ken Miller stated the items were already on the Inspection list under
Item No.5.
Robert Skinner stated on July 14, 1987, he made a motion that by July
16, 1987 Steve Pence would have met with Mr. Birdwell and do an
inspection on Mr. Birdwell's building including Jerry's Cabintry. A
final list was to be drawn up by the Building and Fire Department and
were to be applied to both Jerry Birdwell and Jerry's Cabintry. Mr.
Skinner asked if Item No. 1 on the list had been completed.
Mr. Birdwell stated yes.
Robert Skinner asked Steve Pence if Item No. 1 had been completed.
Steve Pence stated no.
Mr. Birdwell asked Steve Pence what had not been done.
Steve Pence stated the exit door from Jerry's Cabintry had not been
installed including the room across the hall.
Mr. Birdwell asked if he was talking about Jerry's Cabintry's personal
office doors.
Steve Pence stated yes they were marked as exit doors.
Mr. Birdwell asked what Ordinance the requirement was under.
Mr. Skinner stated on the inspection of July 16, 1987, Mr. Birdwell
asked that question and was told the reason for the requirement and
shown the doors that would need the locks.
Mr. Birdwell stated there were some things he was told to do that did
not have to be done and he wanted to know according to the City
Ordinance what he did indeed need to do.
Page 4.
Robert Skinner asked if Item No. 2 had been completed on the exit
signs.
Jerry Birdwell stated yes.
Robert Skinner asked Steve Pence if Item No. 2 had been completed.
Steve Pence stated yes.
Robert Skinner asked Mr. Birdwell if Item No. 3 had been completed
concerning the fire extinguishers.
Mr. Birdwell stated two extinguishers were in the upstairs and two in
the office area.
Mr. Skinner asked Steve Pence if Item No.3 had been completed.
Steve Pence stated no.
Mr. Skinner asked Mr. Birdwell if Item No. 4 concerning smoke
detectors had been completed.
Mr. Birdwell stated some had been installed.
Mr. Skinner asked Steve Pence if Item No. 4 had been completed.
Steve Pence stated two smoke detectors in the upstairs storage area
were complete. From the four detectors required downstairs, there was
only one detector hanging with no power to it.
Mr. Skinner asked Mr. Birdwell if Item No. 5 concerning General
Housekeeping had been completed.
Mr. Birdwell stated it could have been clean three days previous but
to the present day it could be piled four feet deep.
Mr. Skinner asked Steve Pence if Item No. 5 had been completed.
Steve Pence stated all the materials should be arranged as to not
constitute a fire hazard. The materials were not arranged. He was at
Jerry's Cabintry at closing time the present day and there were wood
shaving allover and no attempt to clean up was made.
Robert Skinner acknowledged the arrival of John Larriviere to the
meeting.
Robert Skinner asked if Item No. 6 concerning radiant heaters in the
cabinet shop were completed.
Mr. Birdwell stated the heaters were to be moved out a month and a
half ago.
Mr. Skinner asked Steve Pence if the propane bottle was still there.
Steve Pence stated yes but the heaters were no longer there.
Page 5.
Mr. Birdwell asked if the City had an answer as to where to put the
bottle since he can not put it where he wants.
Danny Taylor stated the propane bottle could be chained to the outside
of the building with proper plumbing running to the inside of the
building. No flammable material could be stored inside the building.
Natural gas could not be hooked up with a rubber hose.
Steve Pence stated the type of heater with the propane bottle is not
allowed in a cabinet shop.
Mr. Skinner asked if Item No. 7 concerning light fixtures had been
completed.
Mr. Birdwell stated he asked everyone that came to the building if he
could not do something else besides sheetrocking the bottom of the
joists and trapping the dust in between the first floor ceiling and
the second floor.
Mr.Skinner asked Steve Pence if Item No. 7 had been completed.
Steve Pence stated no. Light fixtures were still hanging without all
the panels in place.
Mr. Skinner asked Mr. Birdwell if Item No. 8 concerning electric
panels, outlets, and boxes was completed.
Mr. Birdwelll stated he did not know.
Mr. Birdwell asked Steve Pence if Item No. 8 was completed.
Steve Pence stated it was completed in Mr. Birdwell's area but not in
Jerry's Cabintry where he could not see that anything had been done.
Mr. Skinner asked Mr. Birdwell if Item No. 9 concerning panels on
heating units had been completed.
Mr. Birdwell stated they were on the last time he saw them.
Mr. Skinner asked Steve Pence if Item No. 9 had been completed.
Steve Pence stated yes.
Mr. Skinner asked Mr. Birdwell if Item No. 10 concerning flammable
material under the stairway had been completed.
Mr. Birdwell stated he removed the wooden cabinet which was under the
stairway and has not installed a steel cabinet.
Mr. Skinner asked Steve Pence if Item No. 10 had been completed.
Steve Pence stated yes.
Mr. Skinner asked Mr. Birdwell if Item No. 11 concerning fire rated
doors had been completed.
Page 6.
Mr. Birdwell stated he asked about the doors and had not gotten an
answer as to whether the glass door in the front of the building would
be acceptable.
Danny Taylor stated as long as there was no more than 100 square
inches and had tempered glass.
Mr. Skinner asked Steve Pence if Item No. 11 had been completed.
Steve Pence stated the original requirement was a one hour fire rated
door and the Fire Department dropped that to a 20 minute fire rating
to save expense. The glass doors were accepted as a 20 minute
rating.
Mr. Skinner asked Mr. Birdwell if Item No. 12 concerning emergency
lighting had been completed.
Mr. Birdwell stated he put three lights in the front hall way and the
work area upstairs.
Steve Pence stated the lights were in place but when tested only one
operated.
Mr. Skinner asked Mr. Birdwell if Item No. 13 concerning obstruction
of the exits had been completed.
Mr. Birdwell stated the telephone booth had been moved. Mr. Birdwell
asked if this requirement was in the code as to how far from the door.
Steve Pence stated the width of the door determined the amount of
space on the outside of the door.
Mr. Birdwell asked how far through the door did space need to be
clear.
Steve Pence stated that was common sense. In answer to Mr. Birdwell's
question of the Ordinance No. for Item No. 1 was 1984 NFP NO. 1
3-4.1. 5.
Mr. Skinner asked Mr. Birdwell if Item No. 14 concerning the fire
rated separation had been completed.
Mr. Birdwell stated there had to be another way to do this without
trapping the dust above the sheetrock. He wanted to see if there was
another alternative to the Code.
Steve Pence stated it had not been completed. This was a City
Ordinance Section 19 which required this.
Eric Hill asked if it was feasible to cut out the wall and become a
one occupancy building.
Steve Pence stated he did not know of anything that could be applied
to give it a one hour rating. If Mr. Birdwell could show written
documention on a tested product, it would be accepted.
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Page 8.
Mr. Skinner asked Mr. Birdwell if Item No. 15 concerning designated
aisles had been completed.
Mr. Birdwell stated yes.
Steve Pence stated it had been completed.
Mr. Skinner asked Mr. Birdwell if Item No. 16 concerning exhaust fans
had been completed.
Mr. Birdwell stated 6 fans had been installed.
Steve Pence stated he could not get up into the upstairs office to
check but the rest of the rooms had them.
Mr. Skinner asked Mr. Birdwell if Item No. 17 concerning the repair of
sheetrock had been completed.
Mr. Birdwell stated he did not know.
Steve Pence stated it had not been completed.
Mr. Skinner asked Mr. Birdwell if Item No. 18 concerning the ceiling
truss had been completed.
Mr. Birdwell stated only some pieces of trim were left.
Steve Pence stated it had not been completed.
Mr. Skinner asked Mr. Birdwell if Item No. 19 had been completed.
Mr. Birdwell stated Jerry Eberly was responsible for that and he did
not know if it had been completed.
Steve Pence stated it had not been completed.
Mr. Skinner asked Mr. Birdwell if Item No. 20 concerning report on
ceiling floor truss had been completed.
Mr. Birdwell stated a report had been submitted when the building was
built.
Steve Pence stated he had seen so such report.
Mr. Skinner read letters submitted by Don Coleman, an engineering
consultant, Jerry Birdwell and Commercial Inspector Joe Johnson
concerning the truss assembly.
Mr. Skinner asked Mr. Birdwell if Item No. 21 concerning the fire
lanes had been completed.
Mr. Birdwell stated yes.
Steve Pence stated it had been completed.
Mr. Skinner asked Mr. Birdwell if Item No. 22 concerning fire lane on
the north side of the building had been completed.
Page 9.
Birdwell stated yes.
Steve Pence stated it had been completed.
Mr. Skinner asked Mr. Birdwell if Item No. 23 concerning extinguisher
in the cabinet shop and been completed.
Mr. Birdwell stated it had been place somewhere else.
Steve Pence stated there was no extinguisher where he had requested.
Mr. Skinner stated 8 of 23 items had been approved by the inspectors.
Eric Hill asked if Item No. 4 was partially completed.
Steve Pence stated yes.
Mr. Birdwell stated he was responsible for the upstairs part of the
building meeting the requirements and Jerry Eberly was responsible for
the downstairs meeting requirements.
Michael Dean asked if Mr. Eberly was Mr. Birdwell's tenant.
Mr. Birdwell stated yes.
Michael Dean asked if Mr. Birdwell was relying on Mr. Eberly to meet
the requirements for Mr. Birdwell's building.
Mr. Birdwell stated the only thing that was being done to the building
was the fire rating between the two businesses.
Mr. Skinner motioned, seconded by John Larriviere, to post the
building as a dangerous building and the occupancy of the building is
prohibited, and utility service would be stopped on the City's order.
Motion carried 5-0.
6.
DECISION OF APPENDIX C OF THE
UNIFORM PLUMBING CODE FOR COMMERCIAL
RETAIL BUILDINGS.
Michael Dean motioned, seconded by Orville Baker, to go under the
requirements for Restaurants, Pubs, and Lounges for toilet facilities
in retail sale commercial buildings. Orville Baker asked the plumbing
inspector to use his descrepancy with the occupant load.
The motion carried 5-0.
7.
DECISION OF FIRE DAMPER REQUIREMENTS
IN COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES
Orville Baker motioned, seconded by Michael Dean, to interpret the
Code as decided in BBA 87-4.
Page 10.
8.
ADJOURNMENT
Orville Baker motioned, seconded by Michael Dean, to adjourn the
meeting at 8:36 P.M.
The motion carried 5-0.
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