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HomeMy WebLinkAboutCCA 1987-07-14 Minutes THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR CALLED MEETING OF THE BUILDING BOARD OF APPEALS OF THE CITY OF NORTH RICHLAND HILLS, TEXAS, JULY 14, 1987 - 7:00 P.M. 1. CALL TO ORDER Chairman John Larriviere called the meeting to order July 14, 1987 at 7:00 P.M. 2. ROLL CALL PRESENT: John Larriviere Robert Skinner Eric Hill Joe Crane Chairman Member Member Member STAFF: Danny Taylor Steve Pence Ken Miller Lisa Mills Division Chief Fire Inspector Code Enforcement Secretary 3. MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING MAY 12, 1987 APPROVED Joe Crane moved, seconded by Chairman John Larriviere, to approve the minutes of the May 12, 1987 meeting. Motion carried 4-0. 4. REVIEW OF BBA 87-3 REQUEST OF JERRY P. BIRDWELL TO APPEAL THE ORDER OF DEMOLITION AT 3920 RUFE SNOW DRIVE. Chairman John Larriviere forward the representative of the appeal. Jerry Birdwell of 3920 Rufe Snow Drive came forward and stated that he did not know how long it had been since the last meeting. He said he had met with the City during the time. He met with Steve Pence just that morning and remarked if Mr. Pence had come back that afternoon, Mr. Brdwell had missed him because he was tieing in a service at a shopping center. He had told Mr. Pence he would be back at the building in the afternoon to take care of a few more of the requirements. He had no idea if Steve Pence came back or not. He stated Mr. Birdwell stated there was another inspector who came out two or three weeks ago and gave an itemized list of things that could be done. Mr. Birdwell said that he agreed to put up some smoke detectors. He talked to Steve Pence about the fire extinguishers and he found one more location of where to put an extinguisher and emergency lighting in 2 locations on the 2nd floor of the building. The wiring is finished and the emergency lights have been ordered and Page 2. when they arrived they would be nailed up. Mr. Birdwell said he has unloaded a cabinet made out of wood from under the stairway and is replacing it with metal shelves. He also put thumb latches on the door and exit signs are up where they needed to be. He moved the empty freon drums to another city and has done some cleaning. He stated that he had done some other things but could not remember what they were. Joe Crane asked Mr. Birdwell if he met with the Fire Department and if he made a list of the things he could do and the things he could not. Was a list made of the things that could be compromised. Mr. Birdwell stated Kirk Marcum came to the building and gave Mr. Birdwell a list of what needed to be done and what did not need to be done. He thought there were 2 or 3 #1900 box covers missing that Joe Johnson told him needed to be taken care of. Mr. Birdwell stated he did what Mr. Johnson asked, but it has not been inspected. Joe Crane stated he understood Jerry Birdwell and the Fire Department were going to meet and come up with a specific amount of items that had to be done. He understood from the last meeting with Mr. Birdwell a time was going to be set up for him and his lawyer to go over a list of what could or could not be done. Jerry Birdwell stated he tried 2 or 3 times and was not able to keep the appointment. Kirk Marcum laid out what needed to be done before the meeting. Kirk Marcum told him what needed to be done and for Mr. Birdwell to try and get as much done as possible before this meeting. Chairman John Larriviere asked if the Fire Department and Jerry Birdwell and his lawyer got together in which the Board of Appeals granted a sixty (60) day extension for Mr. Birdwell's lawyer's convenience. Mr. Larriviere stated at one time Mr. Birdwell told the Board the reason he had not done anything before was because the building could be closed down if he was not able to meet all of the requirements. Chairman Larriviere stated he was under the impression this matter was to be solved in the sixty day extension period Mr. Birdwell was given. He asked Mr. Birdwell if the meeting had taken place in which the time extension was given for. Jerry Birdwell stated as far as his attorney goes, it appeared the sixty day extension was not enough for him. After a couple of attempts, the City sent Kirk Marcum and Joe Johnson to meet with Mr. Birdwell. They told him what needed to be done. Chairman John Larriviere asked if there was a list of things that needed to be done. Jerry Birdwell stated yes. Chairman John Larriviere asked if the list was acceptable to Mr. Birdwell. Mr. Birdwell stated the items dictated to him by Kirk Marcum were acceptable. Jerry Birdwell stated he asked Kirk Marcum to look at the building and list the items that would bring it to an acceptable safety level. Page 3. Chairman John Larriviere stated his question still had not been answered. He said there was to be a point in time where he and the City were to meet and see what amount of things had to be done and a decision made whether Jerry Birdwell was going to comply or the City demolish the building. Did Mr. Birdwell know if he was going to keep the building or not. Jerry Birdwell stated Kirk Marcum and Joe Johnson came to the building and gave him a list of things that needed to be done. Most of the items have been done. All that was left was the smoke detectors and emergency lighting and the shelves under the stairway. He has about 18 to 23 man hours left to complete the list. Joe Crane asked if the striping of the parking lot was waived. Jerry Birdwell stated since he could not comply with the 20 foot lane, the Fire Department decided he could box out 20 feet up in front of the building for the fire trucks since they did not have a 20 foot clearance. The closest fire plug is about 600 feet away from the building. He is faced with a 14 foot drive approach on one side and 11 foot on the other side and behind the building the gates are locked because of the vehicles kept there. Joe Crane stated the Board could not change the Code. They could only grant appeals and extensions. The Board needed the Fire Department to inform them of what was being done and if the work was conforming. Jerry Birdwell stated Kirk Marcum told him he would check into the fire lane requirement. The 20 foot lane could conform if they tore the building down. Danny Taylor stated the fire lane down the side of the building could not be complied with. Instead the front of the building would have to remain open at all times where if a fire was in the rear of the building, an engine could be pulled up and go down the side of the building. Joe Crane asked if it had been completed. Steve Pence agreed there was no way the fire lanes could be put in. The Fire Department and Mr. Birdwell agree that both sides of the building would be striped and an area in the back would be maintained so if an engine had to get to the back, it could have room to turn. Danny Taylor stated the 14' side, an engine could get down the sides. Chairman John Larriviere asked what the Fire Department needed Mr. Birdwell to do to enable him to keep the building. Danny Taylor stated the list from June 25, 1987 written by Kirk Marcum was what was being required. Chairman John Larriviere asked if all the requirements were completed, then would the building pass inspection. Steve Pence stated no. When the Fire Department met with Jerry Birdwell on May 15, they went over the list of items. They determined what Mr. Birdwell could do and the things that were impossible to do. Page 4. Chairman John Larriviere asked if Mr. Birdwell did all of the items except for the ones which were impossible to do, would his building then pass the inspection. Steve Pence stated yes. Chairman John Larriviere asked what things needed to be done and where they stood on the completion. Steve Pence stated all the items were not completed. Chairman John Larriviere asked what items were left to be completed. Steve Pence asked if the Board had a copy of the write ups from January 29, 1987. Robert Skinner asked the status of Jerry's Cabinetry Shop. Steve Pence stated it was not completed. Jerry Birdwell asked if the meeting he had two weeks ago amounted to anything. Steve Pence stated the meeting with Kirk Marcum was to get some of the base requirements completed for life safety. Jerry Birdwell stated he had the conversation with Mr. Marcum on tape and he did not believe that was what was said. Robert Skinner stated Mr. Birdwell came before the Board on April 14, 1987 and Mr. Skinner personally went (~er the list of requirements date January 29, 1987. Jerry Birdwell was aware at the time of the requirements and what needed to be done to bring the building up to Code. Mr. Birdwell was given until the present day to complete the requirements. Now, 120 days later, Mr. Birdwell had still not completed the requirements. The City had gone so far as to waive some of the items and gave Mr. Birdwell a list again on June 25, 1987. Mr. Skinner asked Jerry Birdwell to go over the list and tell the Board what had been done. Mr. Birdwell stated he did not have a list with him. Robert Skinner asked if Mr. Birdwell would mind him reading the list. Mr. Skinner stated on the list of January 29, 1887, the following requirements shall be met. 1. No storage of flammable or combustible material under stairways. Mr. Skinner asked if Mr. Birdwell had completed the item. Jerry Birdwell stated he needed to see the list. Robert Skinner asked if Mr. Birdwell had received a copy of the list after the inspection had been made. Danny Taylor stated he did not know. Jerry Birdwell stated he had already explained about Item No.1. He had told Steve Pence he would have to wrench the present cabinet to get it out and they were working on it. Page 5. Robert Skinner asked if at this point was the material still under the stairway and had it been ever since the meeting in April. Jerry Birdwell stated no. This requirement was not of the original ones. Originally, the list read nothing could be done under the stairway, and on June 25, 1987 the inspector said if there was no flammable or combustible material, and it was made of concrete or steel, the material could be stored under the stairway. Robert Skinner stated Item 11 of the January 29, 1987 reads: "There shall be no enclosed space usable under stairs and in an exit enclosure nor shall all the open space under stairs be used for any purpose." Jerry Birdwell asked Robert Skinner if he was saying the meeting of June 25, 1987 was of no purpose. Chairman John Larriviere stated he understood it was a supplement meeting to get some things done to show some progress. The meeting did not wipe out all of the other requirements and all Mr. Birdwell would have to do is the eleven requirements and his building would be in Code. He asked Mr. Birdwell if he understood. Jerry Birdwell stated he understood he just had the eleven requirements. Robert Skinner stated that Item No. 2 read: "There shall be one piece of 5/8 inch Type x gypsum added to corridor walls and ceilings if the south office upstairs is ever leased." Mr. Skinner asked if the upstairs office was leased and had any gypsum been added. Jerry Birdwell stated no to both questions. He did not add gypsum because he had asked for gas service and could not get any so he decided against the gypsum. Robert Skinner read Item. No.3. "All doors entering a corridor shall be of at least a twenty minute fire rating 1 3/4 solid core." Mr. Skinner asked if it had been completed. Jerry Birdwell stated it had not. He could just remove the doors and comply. Robert Skinner read Item No.4. "Lighted exit signs of an approved illuminated type shall be placed as discussed." He asked Mr. Birdwell if it had been completed. Jerry Birdwell stated yes. Robert Skinner read Item No.5. "Smoke detectors of an approved electrical type shall be placed as discussed." He asked Mr. Birdwell if it had been completed. Mr. Birdwell stated the wiring for the detectors was half completed. Page 6. Robert Skinner asked if the detectors were connected. Jerry Birdwell stated he was saying they were 50 percent completed and Mr. Skinner was saying completed. Robert Skinner stated the items were written in January 29, 1987 and to date were still not completed. It was re-written on June 25, 1987. The Board did not know if these items were completed or not. That is why he is asking these questions. Jerry Birdwell stated everything had been covered in other meetings. Robert Skinner read Item No.6, "General Housekeeping inside and out should be maintained." Jerry Birdwell stated he had moved material to another city the City of North Richland Hills thought was a fire hazard. Robert Skinner stated for the City and Mr. Birdwell's benefit, fire inspectors knew the hazards. Jerry Birdwell stated they could not make an empty freon bottle blow up. Robert Skinner read Item No.7. "Emergency lighting shall be installed as discussed." He asked if the lighting had been installed. Jerry Birdwell stated the boxes were set and shown to Steve Pence. When the lights were delivered, they would be put up. Robert Skinner asked if the lights had been ordered. Jerry Birdwell stated yes. Robert Skinner read Item No.8. "Application of fire retardant to bottom side of flooring." Jerry Birdwell stated this was added after the discussion. Item No. 8 was not in the original list. An engineer Mr. Birdwell talked to said there is a retardant that could be applied to the bottom side of a wooden floor. Then if something catches on fire, the retardant produces C02 which smothers the fire. Mr. Birdwell was in the process of pricing the product simply for safety reasons. Robert Skinner stated all the items he had just read or found in longer sentence form on the January 29 list. Mr. Birdwell had been aware of these since then, and was aware of it at the meeting in April and on June 25. Chairman John Larriviere asked Steve Pence to tell the Board what had been accomplished and what had not. Steve Pence stated Item No. 1 had been completed. Item No. 2 "Stairs should be separated from all parts of the building by a one hour fire wall" Mr. Pence filled Kirk Marcum in on the situation on May 27. He agreed with Kirk Marcum at the time if no flammable material was underneathe the stairway, Mr. Birdwell Page 7. could store materials under the stairs if there was no combustible materials. Item No. 3 dealt with the interior class rating of the building and the Fire Department agreed since the building has been there so long, they would accept it as is, but if any remodeling was done, it would to be brought up to Class A,B,or C fire rating. Item No. 4 "Corridors must be of one hour fire construction to protect means of egress extended from wall to floor bottom and to roof deck. The Fire Department agreed to leave as is until Jerry Birdwell leased out the upstairs office, then it would have to be brought up to code. Item No.5 "Corridors must have Class A,B, or C flame spread." This dealt with the interior finish and the Fire Department agreed to leave it as is. Item No. 6 "All doors, frames and assemblies shall be laid with one hour fire rate." The Fire Department decided the exterior doors and all doors entering the corridor would have at least a twenty minute rating. Mr. Birdwell had not completed the item. Item No. 7 dealt with the interior finish of the office and the Fire Department agreed to leave as is. Item No.8 "Lighted exit signs of an approved illuminous nature." The signs have been installed. Item No. 9 "Any area used for general storage, boiler, or furnace shall have one hour construction walls according to Provision No.4. The Fire Department agreed to leave as is because the entire back of the building is used as general storage. Mr. Birdwell does not have a boiler or furnace room. Item No. 10 "Exit doors must swing in direction of egress." Steve Pence met with Mr. Birdwell on May 15 and agreed to come and look at the back door of the building and make a decision of whether there was enough room to leave the door swinging in. Kirk Marcum went to determine this and felt there was enough room and to leave as is. Item No. 11 " Should be no enlosed space usable under the stairs in an exit enclosure or shall the open space under the stairs be used for any purpose." The Fire Department agreed if the com- bustible material was removed, Mr. Birdwell could store non- combustible material under the back stairs. Item No. 12 "Smoke detectors of an approved type." The wiring was fifty percent completed. Jerry Birdwell stated the wiring of the smoke detectors was difficult. It was time consuming to wire in the detectors as compared to roughing in a residential home. Steve Pence read Item No. 13 " Two 2A10BC fire extinguishers are required as shown on plans." Mr. Pence referred to the plans submitted in 1983. Robert Skinner asked if the extinguishers had been installed. Steve Pence stated not to his knowledge. Item No. 14 " Designated aisles must be maintained as storage areas with a width of not less that 32". Steve Pence stated he was at Mr. Birdwell's building on Friday, July 10, 1987 and found there was 32" clearance. Item No. 15 "At no time can an aisle, exit, or means of egress to of from an exit be blocked." Mr. Pence stated this was a give and take situation. Page 8. Item No. 16 "This occupancy shall be separated from the other occupancies by a one hour construction wall." Mr. Pence stated this had not been done. Robert Skinner asked where the one hour fire rating needed to be. Steve Pence stated between the first and second floor plus if the office across from Mr. Birdwell's was ever leased, then the office needed to be separated by one hour fire rating. Robert Skinner asked for Mr. Birdwell's comments. Mr. Birdwell stated he had disregarded the idea of Item No. 16 three or four years ago on leasing the office upstairs. As far as the fire rating between the first and second floor, it was his understanding there was not any big deal over that. He was still checking on the price of fire rating. Steve Pence read Item No. 17 "Pressurized fuel, gas, and oxygen cylind~rs must be stored twenty feet from flammable and combustible liquids. Easily ignited forms of material such as wood, paper, oil, and grease needed to be stored where they would not be exposed to excessive rise in temperature. Physical damage or tampering by unauthorized persons. Cylinders must be kept secured by either chaining to walls or placed in racks." Steve Pence stated the cylinders had been removed. The refrigerent bottles Mr. Birdwell had are kept from excessive heat or rise. Mr. Pence stated he was talking about the material stored around the cylinders that could catch fire and burn quickly. Jerry Birdwell stated the cylinders are shipped in cardboard boxes and the cardboard burns quickly. Steve Pence stated this fell under the General Housekeeping Ordinance of keeping it organized and common sense safe. Item No. 18 "Two 2A10BC fire extinguishers are required in the upstairs storage area, one must be centrally located between the door and the stairs, one to be located at the rear exit. Extinguishers to be mounted on the wall, four feet from the floor not to exceed five feet and easily accessible. Fire extinguishers to have current inspection tags and properly sealed." Steve Pence stated on July 10, he went over this with Jerry Birdwell and showed him where to put them. They decided to relocate one of the extinguishers next to the door leading from the corridor into the storage area, one at the top of the stairs and one at the bottom of the stairs. Jerry Birdwell stated the extinguishers had been mounted except for the third one Mr. Pence had asked for. Steve Pence read Item No. 19 "Two smoke detectors electrically powered on house current on their own circuits shall be installed on the upstairs and back storage area. These detectors shall be centrally located approximately halfway between the east end and the west end of the storage area, one towards the north half of storage and one towards the south half of the storage area." Mr. Pence stated Jerry Birdwell was in the process of putting the wiring in. Page 9. Item No. 20"All trash, leaves, rubbish,discarded materials, paper, grass, and other combustible materials must be cleaned and arranged as not to constitute a fire hazard and this General Housekeeping is to be maintained." Mr. Pence stated Jerry Birdwell had cleaned up alot of the outside of the building and discarded some materials. Robert Skinner asked if there was more to be done. Steve Pence stated yes. Item No. 21 was about the fire lanes that was discussed earlier. There was no way to meet the fire lane requirement. Mr. Birdwell agreed to keep the lanes unobstructed and pick an area in the back for an emergency vehicle. Robert Skinner asked if Steve Pence had shown Jerry Birdwell where the striping should be. Steve Pence stated no. Robert Skinner asked if Mr. Birdwell could paint the stripes where he desires. Steve Pence stated no. Robert Skinner requested the Fire Department to tell Mr. Birdwell where to put the stripes. Steve Pence read Item No. 22. "All doors shall be equipped with quick unlock device on their interior sides as to be able to gain egress without the use of a key." Mr. Pence stated Mr. Birdwell had these devices of the front and back doors. The other door in the building that would need it was the Jerry's Cabintry Shop. Item No. 23 "Emergency lighting of an approved type shall be approved to illuminate the means of egress in the front and rear stairs, corridors, passageways, and roof storage to stairs." Mr. Pence stated the wiring and the boxes for the lighting had been completed but the lights were not in place. Robert Skinner asked Mr. Pence if Item No. 1 had been completed. Steve Pence stated yes and no. Robert Skinner asked about Item No.2. Steve Pence stated it was accepted as is. Chairman John Larriviere asked if those were the requirements needed by the Fire Department. Steve Pence stated yes. Chairman John Larriviere asked if they included the requirements by the Building Department. Steve Pence stated no. Page 10. Chairman John Larriviere asked for someone to read the requirements needed by the Building Department. Danny Taylor stated Joe Johnson went with Kirk Marcum to Mr. Birdwell's building. Mr. Taylor stated the following items had been completed. 1. Light fixtures hanging had been hooked back up. 2. Outside electric box had been fixed. 3. The hole in the concrete stair had been fixed. Items No. 6,8,9, of the Building Inspection report were not complete. Chairman John Larriviere asked if the meeting between the Fire Department and Mr. Birdwell ever took place. Steve Pence state yes. Robert Skinner stated from the write ups of January 29, nine of the twenty three requirements were waived, five of the twenty three were partially complete, five of the twenty three had been completed, and three of the twenty three were to be reviewed. So there was some give and take. Mr. Skinner said the Board had no reports between the January 29th report and the June 25th report. Steve Pence stated there were no reports written. The only thing the Fire Department had were the reports from the meeting with Mr. Birdwell and his attorney. At that time they both and went over the January 29th report and marked which items they could live with and the items that could not be complied with. Chairman John Larriviere asked if both parties were in agreement at the meeting that Mr. Birdwell could do eighteen of the items then the building would pass the Fire Code. Steve Pence stated the Fire Department met with Mr. Birdwell's attorney on April 30th and went over the list and then on May 15th the Fire Department met with Mr. Birdwell and went over the list with him. Chairman John Larriviere asked if at that time was Mr. Birdwell aware of what needed to be done and agreed to do them. Steve Pence stated yes. Chairman John Larriviere asked Mr. Birdwell if the remaining items were going to be difficult to complete. Jerry Birdwell stated the items Kirk Marcum had written would take two to three days. Chairman John Larriviere asked Mr. Birdwell if he had agreed to comply with the requirements that were discussed by himself and the Fire Department. Chairman John Larriviere stated he understood the whole point of the meeting was for Mr. Birdwell to decide if he was going to comply or let his building go. Mr. Birdwell stated it was never his intent to let the building go. He met with the Fire Department on his premises two or three times and the items dictated to him on June 25th were the items Mr. Birdwell understood needed to be done. But now those were not the only Page 11. requirements. Chairman John Larriviere stated that Mr. Birdwell was correct. The original list was not completed. The list of June 25th were the items Mr. Birdwell could do between June 25th and the present date. Chairman John Larriviere stated he wanted to know if Mr. Birdwell knew what needed to be done and when will they be done or is he going to have a problem doing some of them. Mr. Birdwell stated he needed someone to point out where the fire lanes needed to be. Chairman John Larriviere asked when would the remaining items be completed and if Mr. Birdwell was going to do them. Mr. Birdwell stated part of the requirements were going to involve Jerry's Cabinetry. He went through the building with Kirk Marcum and Joe Johnson on June 25th. The things dictated to him were what he believed was what needed to be done in order in bring the building up to Code. If that was the case, then he needed to get with the City again and go through some of the other items. Chairman John Larriviere asked if Mr. Birdwell thought the meeting on June 25th was a second time to eliminate some of the items that were required on the January 29th list. Jerry Birdwell stated he thought what was being dictated to him on June 25th was all that was required. Until Qe listened to his recording of the meeting with Kirk Marcum, he was not going to state what Kirk Marcum had intended. Robert Skinner stated he had specifically asked Mr. Birdwell twice at the last meeting how long it would take him to complete the list and Mr. Birdwell never gave him an answer. Jerry Birdwell asked if the Board wanted him to shut down his business and start to work on the building assuming he agreed with all the requirements, which he had already stated some of the items were impossible to comply with. Robert Skinner stated the Fire Department had waived the items that were impossible and had given Mr. Birdwell more than enough rope on the items that were questionable. Mr. Birdwell had completed some of the items and half completed some others. Mr. Skinner said he thought it was great progress after eight years. Mr. Birdwell stated if the Board felt that way, there was not much he could do about it. Robert Skinner made a motion that by July 18, 1987 Steve Pence would have met with Mr. Birdwell and have an inspection on Mr. Birdwell's building including Jerry's Cabin try. Mr. Skinner asked if Mr. Birdwell was responsible for the cabinet shop. Mr. Birdwell stated he was not responsible. He said if the City tore down the top part of his building Jerry's Cabinetry would not be too happy. Page 12. Robert Skinner stated he understood the cabinet shop leased the office from Mr. Birdwell. Mr. Birdwell agreed. Robert Skinner asked Steve Pence and Danny Taylor if the meeting would be possible. Mr. Taylor stated yes. Steve Pence stated yes. Robert Skinner stated it was the feeling of the Board the requirements be completed in thirty days or other measures would be taken. Mr. Birdwell stated he did not understand what Mr. Skinner was specifically talking about. Mr. Skinner stated Mr. Birdwell needed to bring his building and property up to Code as has been discussed over an eight year time period. Mr. Birdwell stated he was understanding the building would pass everything up until 1984. Robert Skinner stated Mr. Birdwell could not deny the fact the City had given him plenty of lee way with some of the original write ups. Nine of the original requirements had been waived out of twenty three. Mr. Birdwell stated when the building was built, it passed all the inspections for fifteen years up until 1984. Danny Taylor stated the City had only one record of the building and it was in 1985 when Jerry's Cabinetry applied for a certificate of occupancy. They never picked up their requirements. Robert Skinner stated the City was not asking for the impossible. They were just asking for Mr. Birdwell to bring the building up to the Fire Code. Mr. Birdwell stated he evideutally misunderstood Kirk Marcum because Mr. Birdwell thought the requirements Mr. Marcum dictated to him on June 25th were what needed to be done. Robert Skinner motioned the Fire Department inspect the building by the end of the week and the inspection was to be done with or without Mr. Birdwell's presence. Eric Hill stated he had made the motion at the last meeting to give Mr. Birdwell the sixty day extension. Mr. Hill said he wanted Mr. Birdwell to meet with the City and come up with a new list of what needs to be done. Mr. Birdwell asked when he could do it. Joe Crane asked if the Board could legally grant another thirty day extension. Page 13. Chairman John Larriviere stated he understood the purpose of the meeting was to review the progress. The Board needed to decide whether to let Mr. Birdwell continue with the upgrading of the building or start a demolition process. Joe Crane stated Mr. Birdwell was probably tired of this matter and would rather the Board to either deny or approve the appeal. Mr. Crane said Mr. Birdwell did not seem to agree with what the City was asking of him. Mr. Birdwell stated he did not know. He suggested he and the City have a meeting. Chairman John Larriviere stated they were to have a meeting after the last Board of Appeals meeting. That was the meeting Mr. Birdwell's lawyer asked for the sixty day extension because he was busy. The Board had agreed to let Mr. Birdwell meet with the City and decide what needed to be done and make a decision whether to do the requirements or not. Mr. Birdwell stated he misunderstood what the meeting was for on June 25. Chairman John Larriviere stated the meeting was irrevelant to the original meeting. Mr. Birdwell stated if none of the meetings meant anything, why were they having them. Robert Skinner stated it meant one thing. The building is either going to sta'1d or be demolished. He asked Mr. Birdwell if he wanted the building demoiished. Mr. Birdwell stated he already answered the question. Mr. Skinner stated the purpose of the meetings was to give Mr. Birdwell time to conform with the Fire Code. Mr. Birdwell stated they apparantly needed to have a full blown meeting instead of having someone go to the building and tell him th~ items that needed to be done.~pparantly when Mr. Marcum came to his building on June 25, the Board would not abide by what he said. Mr. Skinner stated he did not say the Board would not abide by what Mr. Marcum said. He was saying he was giving Mr. Birdwell a chance to have a current inspection and in thirty days if the requirements were not complete, the process for demolition would be started. Mr. Birdwell asked when could he have a meeting with the Fire and Building Department inspectors. Robert Skinner asked him to name a convienent time between the present day and Friday at 5:00 P.M. Danny Taylor asked Mr. Birdwell to set the time because there had been too many meetings cancelled. He told him to set a time and he would have the inspectors there day or night. Page 14. Robert Skinner asked Mr. Birdwell to name the time. Mr. Birdwell stated Thursday at 2:00 P.M. at the front door of the building. Chairman John Larriviere stated there was a motion to prolong the extension to allow Mr. Birdwell to meet with the inspectors and comply with the requirements. Joe Crane asked if he would be allowed thirty days after the meeting. Robert Skinner stated thirty days after the inspection. Steve Pence asked if the inspection was for the whole building or just Birdwell Construction. Joe Crane stated the whole building. Chairman John Larriviere asked what would be done when the inspectors went out to the building. Danny Taylor stated there would be one more set of write ups done, they would be divided up between Birdwell Construction and Jerry's Cabinetry Shop. When the inspectors went back to the building before the next Board meeting, there would be no write ups. The inspectors will just check off what has been done and bring them to the Board. Steve Pence asked if the Board was including Jerry's Cabintry Shop in the inspection. Robert Skinner stated it was for the entire property at 3920 Rufe Snow Drive. Chairman John Larriviere called for a vote. Eric Hill seconded and the motion carried 4-0. Chairman John Larriviere stated the vote was for the meeting with Mr. Birdwell and the City Official on Thursday, July 16, 1987 at 2:00 p.m. for Mr. Birdwell to find out what needed to be done. He would then have thirty days from that day to complete the requirements. Robert Skinner asked if Mr. Birdwell understood. Mr. Birdwell stated yes. 5. REVIEW OF THE REQUIREMENT FOR FIRE DAMPERS IN SUPPLY AND RETURN DUCT. The Board voted that more information was needed on the definitions of suspended ceilings and roof ceiling assemblies before a vote could be taken on whether to require the fire dampers or not. Page 15. 6. ADJOURNMENT Joe Crane moved, seconded by Robert Skinner, to adjourn the meeting. Motion carried 4-0. Chairman of the Board of Appeals ATTEST: Secretary