HomeMy WebLinkAboutPRB 2003-02-03 Minutes MINUTES OF THE PARK AND RECREATION BOARD
OF THE CITY OF NORTH RICHLAND HILLS, TEXAS
HELD AT THE PRE COUNCIL CHAMBERS
LOCATED AT 7301 NORTHEAST LOOP 820
February 3, 2003
ATTENDANCE
Present: Board:
Brad Greene Vice-Chairman
Janie McGuigan Board Member
Marlin Miller Board Member
Marty Kusmerski Board Member
Fred Durko Board Member
Jim Allen Board Member
Kim Kirby Alternate
Absent: Mark Haynes Chairman
Present: Staff:
Jim Browne Director of Parks and Recreation
Sharon Davis Recreation Superintendent
Vickie Loftice Assistant Director of Parks and Recreation
Christina Lopez Administrative Secretary
Bill Thornton Assistant Director of Parks and Recreation
Greg Vick Assistant City Manager
Dalan Walker Parks Capital Projects Superintendent
ITEM 1.
CALL TO ORDER
Vice-Chairman Greene called the meeting to order February 3, 2003 at 6:00 p.m.
ITEM 2.
APPROVAL OF' THE MINUTES
APPROVED
MOTION:
Mr. Miller made a motion, seconded by Mr. Allen, to approve the minutes of the January
6, 2003 meeting.
Motion to approve carried 6-0.
ITEM 3.
LITTLE MISS KICKBALL REPORT
Mr. Mike Newman, President of the Little Miss Kickball Association, presented
information to the Park and Recreation Board about the Little Miss Kickball Association.
Little Miss Kickball was founded in 1970 in the Flour Bluff Community of Corpus Christi,
Texas. The Association became a non-profit corporation in 1971, governed by a Board
of Directors. LMK has played at Fossil Creek Park, in NRH, since 1999. At this time
there are only two kickball leagues in Tarrant County, NRH and Hurst. NRH currently
has close to 300 girls playing in the league.
Mr. Newman said LMK would like to host mid season tournaments, but in order to do so
they would have to have 4 lighted fields.
Mr. Miller asked what the Park and Recreation Board can do to get a 4th field to be
used for tournaments or all star play.
Mr. Browne commented that staff is doing a lot of research regarding youth association
issues and will bring a report back to the Park and Recreation Board in the future.
Staff thanked Mr. Newman for his presentation.
ITEM 4.
PR 02-34 - RECREATION, ATHLETICS, SENIOR ADULTS, TEENS,
TENNIS CENTER AND CULTURAL ARTS PROGRAM REPORTS
Ms. Sharon Davis updated the Park and Recreation Board on the following:
To encourage customer feedback and suggestions, the GREAT IDEAS program has
been developed. A GREAT IDEAS comment board, located in the lobby of the
Recreation Center, allows staff to respond to a variety of comment cards that patrons
and staff may complete and turn in to the front desk or suggestion box.
After review of the current BISD flyer distribution procedures we are now developing
a recreation quarterly newsletter to distribute to school campuses four times a
year. The newsletter will also feature fun information and contests with a chance to win
prizes and will be distributed in the months of February, April, September, and
November.
Spring softball registration is underway with the leagues scheduled to begin March 10th.
The Hurst softball program will not resume this Spring so staff expects to maintain a
significant number of teams.
The Corporate Challenge steering committee met in January and plans are well
underway for the competition. The theme this year will be patriotic with a tag line of
"Together Everyone Achieves More". A kickoff luncheon will be held February 26th at
the NRH Recreation Center.
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On January 30th the Bursey Center is planning a dinner/theatre outing and have invited
the Dan Echols seniors to attend as well. Approximately 50 people are expected to
register.
The Bursey Center quilting group is raffling a quilt as a fundraiser. Tickets may be
purchased at the center until February 13th. Funds raised will be used to purchase
supplies for quilts which will be donated to various charity groups including Christhaven
Children's Home.
Fifteen participants from Bursey Center enjoyed a trip to the Fort Worth Stock Show and
Rodeo on January 27th.
Kathye McCall, the new Senior Center Supervisor at Dan Echols and Gwen Weisell, the
new Senior Center Attendant have been busy programming new activities for the
Center.
Both `edge' sites enjoyed field trips to Mountasia where they played video games and
Laser Tag.
A representative from TCADA (Texas Commission on Alcohol and Drug Abuse) will visit
both `edge' sites in February and conduct drug, alcohol, and tobacco prevention groups
with the teens.
Dr. Larry Darlage, President of Tarrant County College, spoke at the January YAC
meeting. He spoke to YAC about leadership, setting and achieving goals, and the steps
he took to get to where he is today.
Paul Dorasil, YAC Chairman, gave the Mid-Year report to City Council on January 27th.
He gave a power point presentation on accomplishments, as well as activities and
projects planned for the rest of the school year.
Tickets for the 50th Anniversary Gala Celebration are on sale. The reception and
concert are scheduled for Saturday, February 22nd. Tickets are $30 per person or $15
for the concert only. The Fort Worth Symphony Orchestra will be performing. The
painting that was commissioned for the 50th Anniversary will be unveiled at the concert.
The oil painting features Cross Timbers Park and the native plants at that site.
Currently letters of agreement are being put together for the 15' x 4' wall at Foster
Village Neighborhood Park Site. Staff has contracted with Dallas artist VET to facilitate
this particular piece of public art.
Richland Tennis Center had a women's 3.0 team, the Rowdy Racquets, coached by
Jason Brown, travel to Houston to compete at the state level. Fort Worth lost in the
semi finals to Dallas.
RTC staff is busy with group lessons and the formation of USA teams for the spring
season. Staff anticipates a record number of teams calling RTC "home".
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ITEM 5.
PR 02-30 - PARK OPERATIONS AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
PROGRAM STATUS REPORT
Mr. Bill Thornton updated the Park and Recreation Board on the following:
The contractor is making progress at the Mullendore Neighborhood Park site. They are
coordinating construction with the school sites and will be working on a couple of park
sites at one time. Staff will be revising the completion dates of the Forest Glen and
Industrial/Holiday Neighborhood Park sites pending recommendations.
The OLMS Conversion Project is complete with the exception of Richfield Park. Based
on research and investigation by staff, the Richfield Park OLMS conversion does not
appear to be economically feasible at this time. Staff will look at other options.
City Council will consider awarding the contract for construction of the park sign planter
walls and landscaping at their February 5th meeting.
City Council rejected the bids for the Bleacher Shade Project at Cross Timbers Park. A
survey was distributed to the Park Board for their review. Staff will bring the Bleacher
Shade Structure Project back to March Meeting for the Park and Recreation Boards
review. Staff will be looking for a recommendation to forward a change order to city
council for their consideration or evaluation of other options.
TxDOT approved the contracts and Notice To Proceed for the Cottonbelt Trail Project.
The contractor is preparing a schedule of construction activity showing work schedules
in Colleyville and NRH. Construction should begin in February.
The preliminary trail layout is complete for the South Electric Trail. Staff is waiting to
receive TxDOT's comments from the December submittal.
ITEM 6.
HOLIDAY / INDUSTRIAL PARK SITE
The Neighborhood Park Initiative Project includes construction of seven new
neighborhood parks, of which the following five are currently under construction:
Brandonwood, Amundson / Main, Foster Village, Snow Heights and Mullendore.
Development and TPWD issues with the Forest Glen East park site and US Army Corps
of Engineers (USACE) requirements with the Industrial / Holiday park site precluded
their inclusion in the initial bid package.
The approved Master Development Plan for the Holiday / Industrial Neighborhood Park
Site includes extension of culverts out-falling at the northeast corner of the park site,
trail-head parking atop the culvert extension, and creation of a lake in the Calloway
drainage channel, all of which are within Jurisdictional Waters of the U. S. The
extension of the culverts was included for the purpose of correcting extensive erosion
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into residential properties along the northern bank of the tributary, and to provide a
location for a trail-head parking lot.
Since October 1, 2002, the consultant has been working with the USACE and has been
preparing flood plain data relative to these studies and documents.
In light of the timeframes associated with the approval and permitting requirements,
staff and the consultant explored other approaches that would remedy the erosion
problem and expedite the project.
A Bank Stabilization Permit wi{I allow for the installation of a retaining wall and
feathering back of the banks of the tributary. Given the current cost estimate, it appears
that the wall necessary to stabilize the bank can be constructed within the available
funds. Additionally, this approach would not require a Pre-Construction Notification
Document, Wetlands Assessment or Mitigation Plan, thereby eliminating delays
associated with USACE review and processing.
Mr. Miller and Mr. Allen do not think the 7' x 4' box culvert wiN handle the flow of water.
Staff responded that a hydrau{ic study was prepared and that any proposed extension
of the culverts wou{d be designed to accommodate storm water velocities and flow. Mr.
AUen wanted to know how the culverts were going to be combined. Staff noted that the
engineers would design accordingly.
As discussed at the time the master development plans were submitted to Council for
consideration, the master development plans were designed to represent ultimate
development. The current construction budget may not allow for the inclusion of some
of the amenities shown on the plan in the first phase of development. In order to
complete the construction documents for the Holiday / Industrial park site, staff has
prepared options and requests direction as to the extent of work to include in the bid
package for construction of the park.
Options
1(a). Include the bank stabilization work along with the development of the park. This
approach will allow the consultant to complete the construction documents and bid the
project. The extension of the culverts, trail-head parking lot and lake construction woufd
not be included in the bid package, however these amenities could be considered at a
later time. This option can be implemented within the current construction budget and
wou(d reduce otherwise lengthy USACE, FEMA and TCEQ processes.
(b). If the Park and Recreation Board and City Council elects to proceed with this
approach, staff would like additional direction as to which amenities, if any, should be
included in future Capital Improvement Program Budgets. In addition to the culvert
extensions, trail-head parking lot and lake, future amenities could include a separate
pedestrian bridge adjacent to Holiday and City Image enhancements on either side of
the Holiday bridge and to the bridge itself. Should Council desire to more forward with
any or all of these amenities staff will prepare the necessary budget amendments for
engineering and USACE/TCEQ permits in order to expedite their review process.
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Include either the extension of the culverts, the parking lot and/or the creation of the
lake in the bid package and amend the construction budget to reflect the costs
associated with these amenities. Depending on the USACE, FEMA, and TCEQ
permitting processes, the timeframe for permit approval would most likely result in not
being able to issue bids concurrently with Forest Glen. Given the construction budget
and most recent cost estimates, the costs associated with these amenities, as
described above, would necessitate the following budget amendments:
Culvert Extensions - Would require an additional $65,000
Parking Lot - Would require an additional $84,000 (above culvert extensions included)
Lake - Would require an additional $192,500
Culvert Extensions, Parking Lot and Lake - All three items together would require an
additional $276,500
(These options would use the $65,000 available balance based on current estimates for
the project, if the bank stabilization work is not done in the 1 st phase of development,
and would take 12 - 18 additional months for USACE permitting at a minimum.)
Discussion was held.
Mr. Durko wanted to know what usage level the park will achieve. Mr. Thornton said it
would be a highly visible park and the first neighborhood park in this zone. Mr. Browne
said there is a lot of traffic that goes up/down Holiday Lane and Industrial and is a very
visible site and provides an opportunity to introduce some of the city image elements
and demonstrate the impacts some of those items can have. This area can be kept in
its current condition which is somewhat of an eye sore or it can be turned in to an asset
with the addition of city image elements, a body of water and public art. When people
drive by the park and they see how nice it looks that makes you feel good.
Mr. Browne stated that there are obviously two choices:
We can go through the Corp of Engineers permitting process that will take
approximately 12 - 24 months, then another year to construct the park; or
We can move forward and do the things we can afford to do now such as the core
elements of the park which include the playground, trail, pavilion, and also put in the
bank stabilization retaining wall to help protect the property owners to the north. While
this is going on we start the Corp review process and amend the budget to get the
design and engineering money in the budget so they can develop plans for the Corp to
review. We get the benefit of a couple of year's use of the park before we look at
putting additional funding into the park to add a parking lot or lake later. Mr. Browne
feels the lake would be a good amenity due to the major trail corridor connection. He
knows it's a lot of money for a small site, but it is an important site due to its location,
visibility and providing neighborhood park services to a fully developed area that does
not currently have any park services.
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Mr. Durko wanted to know if the other hydraulic issues that Public Works is concerned
about would be addressed. Mr. Browne did not want to speak for Public Works on that
and that he honestly does not know the answer. He did comment about the concerns
that Mr. Miller and Mr. Allen had about the two larger culverts being redesigned to a
single 7'x4' culvert and its ability to handle the flow of water. Mr. Browne said one of the
ways to move more water is to move it with more velocity. In relation to the hydraulic
study and combining a properly designed but smaller culvert you can move more water
through faster than what is currently happening there now. Mr. Thornton commented
that regardless of what is there now, the cost estimate is to cover the design to carry the
water underground to a certain distance to avoid the erosion problems.
Mr. Miller commented that we are forgetting one thing, the people who live in that
neighborhood. He thinks that is the stinkiest muck hole with snakes and it is up to the
City to get it cleaned up. He wants the lake taken out of there, thinks it is a mosquito
breeding area. Mr. Browne clarified that mosquito's breed in 6-8 inches, or less, of
water and the lake would be a lot deeper than that. Mr. Thornton explained how the
lake would be designed with the proper depths to actually prevent mosquito breeding.
Mr. Greene commented that Green Valley has a beautiful lake and they don't have any
problems there. Mr. Miller said that's because they have a fountain. Mr. Browne said
that would be proposed at this site as well. Mr. Durko wanted to know who is
maintaining the channel at this time. Mr. Miller said nobody. Mr. Browne clarified and
said the Parks Maintenance Division has begun taking care of that site and has even
spoken to Mr. Cole, an adjacent homeowner, who has complimented staff on their work
and appreciates what has been done. What staff is proposing in the first phase of
development with the retaining wall and embankment improvements will help alleviate
the potential loss of property that the homeowners could have. Mr. Miller and Mr. Allen
said the area still has a mosquito stink element and still needs to be cleaned up. Mr.
Allen said staff can't say that someone is doing something out there, because they're
not. Mr. Thornton responded that the area is jurisdiction waters of the Corp and we are
not allowed to go in there and rip out the materials or any other growth in that area
without the proper permitting. By doing the bank stabilization permit, which we would
have to get a permit for, it will allow us to stabilize the slopes and feather back the top if
the banks and clean up the appearance of the overall site without getting in to the flow
line which would require going through the Corp of Engineers. Mr. Browne stated that
the feathering back of the banks will get us to a more maintainable slope so we can get
equipment down there to raise the standard of maintenance. Staff cannot grade the
area until we have the permit and permission of the Corp of Engineers. Mr. Allen
wanted to know whose responsibility it is to maintain that property and who owns the
property? Mr. Browne stated that the City of North Richland Hills does, but we can only
do what the law allows us to do. We are legally bound, subject to the laws of the federal
government. This is a protected area as jurisdictional waters of the United States.
Mr. Miller wanted to know what we are going to do with that mosquito infested place.
He said the water is going to have to drain out of there. Mr. Browne commented that
what staff is proposing are improvements to the outFall of the culvert and by feathering
back and grading will allow staff to get down there to mow and maintain the area to
minimize those issues. But we cannot do that until we go through the permitting
process.
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Mr. Allen wanted to know what type of sewer line runs down Calloway Creek. He
wanted to know how we were going to build a lake if it is a sanitary sewer. Mr. Browne
said the lake will be a subtractive lake, where you excavate down, bringing the fill
material out and work with existing water levels. What ever is required by Public Works
and or any pertinent codes with regards to the sanitary sewer will be respected. That is
part of the consultant's job to design a facility that's not going to cause problems for
other utilities and they are well aware of what is there.
Mr. Allen wanted to know if anyone has come up with an idea of how much water is
flowing down through there at different times of the year. He thinks that at certain times
of the year there won't be any water flowing to keep the lake full. Mr. Thornton said the
lake will probably be charged by some mechanism. The Home Takes ~akes and Linda
Spurlock Lake are charged with water.
Mr. Allen wanted to know why they give a range for the culvert extension of 175'-200'
and not a specific foot measurement such as 180' or 190'. Mr. Thornton said they
would determine the length in the design phase. There may be requirements placed
upon us by the Corp or issues that come up pertaining to the parking lot. Staff
obviously wants to the do the least amount that we have to do, but solve the problems.
Mr. Allen asked what the problem was. Mr. Thornton said the erosion, lack of grade
where water stands causes the water to not evacuate. The ultimate goal is to clean up
that site. Based on the site survey, and the approved master development plan, that is
the distance we would have to take the culverts underground in order to accomplish the
development shown in the master development plan and alleviate the problems that
exist. From that point on to the channel, the regrading and feathering back of the
slopes would allow for a more maintainable area.
Mr. Allen questioned the figures in the cover sheet regarding the costs of the culvert
extension. Staff explained the cost estimates.
Mr. Durko commented that what he understands is that we could go with Option 1 and
get the channel fixed quicker and spend less money and then review extending the
culverts and putting in the parking lot at a later date. That way staff can get the park
built and bank stabilization done on a faster review process than we can do the total
project with the lake and the culvert. So we have to decide if we want to spend
$600,000 or $300,000? Mr. Greene said really all we need is a recommendation to
send it to Council. Mr. Durko sees recommending Option 1 because it will get the park
started and the bank in a more maintainable position. Mr. Greene said Council would
make the final decision on this, were just making the recommendation to send it to
Council. Mr. Miller and Mr. Allen questioned why they were even on the Board then.
Mr. Miller thought it was the purpose of the board to discuss it before it gets to the
Council. Mr. Durko asked Mr. Allen is he was looking for a quicker fix to the mosquito
infested stink hole? Mr. Allen said no, he just wants some answers to the figures in the
cover sheet. Mr. Greene said it is not about the figures. Mr. Miller countered that it is
about figures, he is a tax payer and everyone else on the Board is a taxpayer, it is about
figures. Mr. Greene clarified that what he understands is that we are to discuss making
a recommendation to Council on how to proceed with the project. Mr. Miller said we are
here to discuss anything that comes up that we want to discuss. And if that is not so he
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can fold his books up and go home. He doesn't feel he would have any purpose here.
Mr. Miller said he is just trying to figure out what the cost of the project will be before it
goes to Council.
Mr. Browne commented that we need to take a step back and realize that we are all on
the same team. Initially some of the questions may have come across as accusatory or
suspicious or possibly meaning that staff is trying to fudge numbers. Staff will answer
any questions the Board has and has absolutely nothing to hide. Obviously, staff wants
to spend the least amount of money on infrastructure and the most money on amenities
that we can to solve the problems and make the best product out there. Staff is 100%
happy to answer any questions; Mr. Browne just requests we do it in a more team
oriented fashion.
Mr. Browne also commented to the debate over the Board's role. The Board's role is to
evaluate the recommendations that staff has made, including costs, what is included
and not included in the project and let staff answer all your questions so the Board can
have a good understanding of what is being proposed and they can make a good
recommendation to Council. Mr. Browne stated that Staff is going to ask for a
recommendation tonight because this item is going to City Council on Wednesday night.
Staff is going to have a recommendation and hopefully it is the same as the Park Board.
This is a very complex issue; it took a week for staff to write the three page cover sheet
to put it in an understandable context. He said it is a lot more complex than what is
even in the cover sheet. What ever questions the Board has, staff wants to answer
them, he would like everyone to respect each other and do it in a team oriented manner.
Mr. Browne said staff are professionals and they wil{ give you their best
recommendation. He is not a civil engineer, but has consulted, met with and listened to
many over the last 22 years so he has a basic understanding. Bill has $40 million in
capital projects experience and Dalan has $20 million.
Mr. Miller thought that's what they were doing.
Mr. Allen said he was offended by Mr. Browne's statement that he is not a team p{ayer.
Mr. Vick explained the scope of the neighborhood park projects and history. The
numbers were put together about two years ago before we started acquiring sites. We
now have an approved master development plan. There are five parks under
construction. For this site we have essentially two options. Mr. Vick explained the two
options stated above. Mr. Allen thanked Mr. Vick and said he understands it and really
understood it from the first. He said he started asking questions and was getting
different answers and then was offended by Mr. Browne's comment. Mr. Browne
clarified that he didn't say he wasn't a team player, he said the questions could be
asked in a more team oriented manner.
Mr. Thornton asked if Mr. Allen's questions were answered. Mr. Allen said yes.
Mr. Miller asked how many acres this site is. Staff responded 2.4 plus the additional
acreage in the open space of the drainage easement. Mr. Miller thinks it's a lot of
money for a small park. Mr. Thornton said the elements that are included on the master
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development plan are the same elements included on each of the other neighborhood
parks, a pavilion, playground, a length of hike and bike trail. Mr. Miller wanted to know if
in the end do we want to spend this much money?
Mr. Durko wanted to know if we know the density of this area compared to some of the
other neighborhoods. Several people commented about the new housing development.
He feels that this park will provide more bang for the buck than some of the other parks,
because of its density and lack of open space in this area.
Mr. Miller said he would like to go with the first Option. Mr. Durko said he felt the first
Option would benefit the citizens the most. He thinks Mike Curtis has some hydraulic
issues that parks can check on and Public Works possibly could benefit from the 404
permit. He knows there were some issues in that channel about six years ago and
doesn't know if that has been corrected yet.
MOTION:
Mr. Durko made a motion, seconded by Mr. Miller, that the Park and Recreation Board
accept Option 1A & 1 B and forward a recommendation to City Council
Motion to approve passed 6-0.
Ms. Kusmeriski wanted to know if the parking lot is not going to be included until phase
II how do people get to the site. Mr. Browne said it is a walk to or ride your bicycle to
destination. The real value of the parking lot is supporting the trial head for the hike and
bike trail system going through the park.
Mr. Vick clarified Option 1 is to include A and B. Mr. Durko understood that.
Mr. Thornton also commented that the budget will be amended to include the design
costs and permit fees.
Mr. Browne said the actual implementation of the culvert, parking lot or lakes will be put
in a long term budget to concur with the timeline it takes to get through the permitting
process. Council would make a decision if those will be included at that time. But staff
wanted to be sure that is ultimately what the Park Board would like to see because we
will be spending some money to head that direction. Mr. Browne thinks that is what he
heard and wanted to confirm. The Board confirmed that.
ITEM 7.
OTHER INFORMATIONAL ITEMS
No other items.
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ITEM 8.
ADJOURNMENT
Ms. McGuigan made a motion, seconded by Ms. Kusmeriski to adjourn the meeting at
7:27 p.m.
Motion to approve carried 6-0.
Brad Greene, ce Chairman
ATTEST:
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Christina Lopez, Adm' is ive Secretary
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