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HomeMy WebLinkAboutCCA 1986-01-28 Minutes CALL TO ORDER~ Roll Call 1. BBA 86-1 MINUTES OF THE SPECIAL CALLED MEETING OF THE BUILDING CODE & ORDINANCE COMMITTEE OF THE CITY OF NORTH RICHLAND HILLS, TX, JANUARY, 28, 1986.- 7:00 P.M. The meeting was called to order by Chairman Joe Coulson at 7:00 P.M. PRESENT: Chairman Secretary Members Joe Coulson Greg Wheeler Orville Baker Robert Skinner John Larriviere ABSENT: Gerald Stewart Request of David Barfield to use wood shingles and/or shakes on a commercial building. Chairman Joe Coulson called David Barfield to come forward. David Barfield came forward,stated his case, and showed his plans to the committee. He requested that the existing protion of the building come under the grandfather clause. Mr. Barfield stated that the existing shingles would be treated with fire coating. The shingles that are being added would be brought up to code with fire treated shingles. Chairman Joe Coulson asked Mr. Barfield how much square footage was being added to the existing building. Mr. Barfield stated that they would be adding 1500 square feet. Robert Skinner asked how old the house was. Mr. Barfield stated that the house was twenty years old. The roof is two years old. He said that the roof was not something that they could not live without, it was just a matter of economy. It would cost several thousands of dollars to replace it and they liked the looks of the shingles. Robert Skinner L ~ed Mr. Barfield if this would become an office space for him. Mr. Barfield stated that it was set up for Hanson Properties. Robert Skinner asked of it was for the development of residential in the immediate area. Mr. Barfield stated that it would be the home office unless something better came along. Robert Skinner asked of the other properties, that would be built in the future, would have wood shingles. Mr. Barfield stated that none of their other buildings did. Chairman Joe Coulson asked how many squares of shingles they were adding to the roof. Mr. Barfield stated that there would be twenty squares added. Chairman Joe Coulson asked the committee of anyone wanted to take a look at the plans or discuss it in private. Greg Wheeler stated that everything would have to be in the open, that if he had been aware that the plans were going to be brought in, he would have made them available for the committee in the pre - council meeting. He said that it was apparent what the question was, but for the record that the wood shingle ordinance did not allow wood shingles on commercial buildings. Mr. Wheeler also said that ordinance No. 1217 and the Fire Department Code do not get grandfathered unless specifically designated by the City Council. The codes are only grandfathered with the buildings started under the old codes and then new codes are adopted during construction only then do they allow the old code. Any new construction would then fall under the new ordinance. Mr. Barfield sti...__~d that the only reason the shingles were being replaced was because of hail damage. He said that he was not sure whether they were fire treated or not. Mr. Barfield asked Greg Wheeler if there was a way to tell. Greg Wheeler stated that there could be a way of it being tested, but on the job treating by painting or spraying was no longer acceptable because Class C or better has to be factory treated before it is brought on the job. Chairman Joe Coulson stated that basically what they could do is go back to the original owner and find out if the shingles were a Class C type and get a letter stating that, but they would still have the twenty-five percent requirement for remodeling. He informed Mr. Barfield that it was not the committee's job to grant variances; they can deny and he could appeal to the City Council, but it would involve a time span. Mr. Barfield stated that it was his understanding that the committee could grant a variance or there would not have been any reason to come. He had been aware that they were in violation of City Code, and after meeting with the City Staff they suggested that he go before this board, so they could make their recommendation on this. Chairman Joe Coulson stated that the main objective of the committee was to stay within the building codes because if they went against it, they were liabling themselves as a committee. He said that a vote would need to be taken whether to approve or deny it, then the next course of action would be to appeal it to the City Council because the committee can not refute a building ordinance. Mr. Barfield asked even if there was a question in this request to the existing building. Chairman Joe COL.ðon stated that of the board could not settle the problem then the appeal would go to the City Council. As far as commercial building were concerned or wood shingles, the ordinance stated that wood shingles can not be allowed. Greg Wheeler stated that he did not know that the meeting between the City Manager Roger Line, Richard Royston, and the Fire Marshall was so extensive. When he was told to have the committee meet, it was to decide what the possibilities were according to the Uniform Building Code. Mr. Barfield stated that he had no problem with that. He knew the code. But after meeting with the City Manager, Richard Royston, and the Fire Marshall, there was some doubt because of this being an existing building that was in the process of being remodeled. Greg Wheeler said that it was surprising to him that it was sent to the committee because all the other houses that come to them to be turned onto commercial buildings had no wood shingles. This problem had never come up before. Mr. Barfield stated that when he asked the City Manager, Richard Royston, and the Fire Marshall if this board could make the decision, he was told that it could. Greg Wheeler stated that the main focus of this committee was not to grant variances. Chairman Joe Coulson asked Mr. Barfield the total square footage being added. David Barfield stated that there was 1500 square feet being added. Robert Skinner made the motion to take a vote to approve or disapprove the request being as it may that the ordinance reads that it is a violation to use wood shingles on multi family or commercial buildings, or extend it to the City Council for approval. ADJOURNMENT and Ordinance Committee Chairman Joe COL ~on seconded the motion. Orville Baker also seconded the motion and stated that under the rules there was no alternative but to agree that it should be carried on to the City Council since the committee did not have the authority to discontinue or disregard the rules. Chairman Joe Coulson asked John Larriviere if he had any rebutal on this. John Larriviere stated that he did not. He agreed with everything. Chairman Joe Coulson made the motion to deny the request of David Barfield to use wood shingles on the house at 9224 Amundson Rd. John Larriviere seconded the motion and the motion to deny carried 4-0. The meeting adjourned at 7:30 P.M. Chai Buil Code and Ordinance Committee